Session Start: Sat Jan 04 15:49:31 2003
(Dre1018) isn't that 90% not immediate...can u imagine the stink, sorry making light
(CMell) and Idol if it wasen't for this ignorance 99% would die instead
(IdolHarobed) hehe
(Kain) no.. 90% to happen over next 50 yrs or so..
(Johnnie5) some will die later from disease etc.
(Woogles) You know, how could there be starvation? honestly, 90% of all humans dead is alot of meat.
(NancyL) Going to make a couple announcements before the chat ...
(NancyL) I'm getting a odd message about #zetatalk cannot sent to channel. Would someone let me know they SAW that announcement, or am I muzzled?
(Obany) okay it will work now
(NancyL) Should I do it again?
(Obany) Yes ...
(NancyL) ANNOUNCEMENT: Russian broadcasts! Our coordinator of the Russian translation teams informed me: "Yesterday (12/29/02) me and one of interpreters (Alex Senchenko) were invited guests on radio show Neizvestnaya Planeta (Unknown Planet). It was live air show on Mayak-24 (lighthouse) FM station
(NancyL) (http://www.radiomayak.ru/mayak24)."
(NancyL) "It broadcasts in Moscow, St. Petersburg and some other cities. The main topic was possible passage. I think it was good, we spoke about 40 minutes. Many calls into studio were supportive!"
(NancyL) "Also on last friday we recorded short programme for Radio Rossii (Radio of Russia http://www.radiorus.ru/) and it will be broadcast on 5 of January. This station covers almost all Russian territory!"
(NancyL) "Both station belongs to russian government however Unknown Planet is independent producing company."
(NancyL) ANNOUNCEMENT: Dec issue of After Dark features Nancy on Planet X and the 2003 Passage. Last I looked my photo was front and center on the new Coast web site http://www.coasttocoastam.com/afterdark/index.html
(NancyL) ANNOUNCEMENT: Planet X Video will be advertised on the Coast site. The video will also be featured in an article in the Feb issue of Nexus magazine, which I am told has a worldwide circulation. Robert, the producer is also booked for another interviews on the Lou Gentile show and I, Nancy have been invited back to debate Jason Martell, which offer I accepted.
(NancyL) Quote from the invitation "Would love to have you do a guest appearance on The Lou Gentile Show [http://www.lougentile.com/index2.html] during Feb. or Mar. 2003. We have had several requests for you to debate Jason Martell http://xfacts.com/"
(NancyL) Robert states that he offered to debate him Jason on the air, but he declined. Lets show a little backbone there, Jason, and step up to the plate!
(NancyL) End ANNOUNCEMENTS
(Johnnie5) ?
(NancyL) I have 3 accepted Q's on the Agenda, will post for the early birds...
(Johnnie5) not muzzled now.
(Jeremy) Nancy: I sense Jason now considers the passage a strong possibility
(NancyL) NESARA
(NancyL) 1. Could you please comment on Nesara (National Economic Stabilization And Recovery Act).
(NancyL) http://www.fourwinds10.com/NESARA/news/12-10-02-Intro-to-NESARA-tony-wicks.html
(NancyL) Others asked for comments during zetattalk sessions in May, March and November of 2002 so I believe there may be some interest.
(CMell) hehe no
(NancyL) Jeremey, he has changed his opinion??!!??
(NancyL) 2003 PREDICTIONS
(NancyL) 1. What are the Zeta's predictions for 2003?
(NancyL) PX VISIBILITY
(NancyL) 1. The you have stated that PX would be visible 7.3 weeks prior to the shift or from the distance from Saturn during day time. Saturn is larger than PX, likely to reflect more sunligth than PX, is not visible by any means during the nigth or the day, even taken the PX dust, moon effects etc, would not make that difference.
(NancyL) 2. Saturn would not be visible during the night should you try to observe it, certainly not by naked eye!, barely even by 8" inc. amateur scope, day or nigth, you will face this dilemna very soon, considering if it is visible by 12"scope.
(NancyL) 3. Since it has been visible sept.15 by 12" scope the speed/distance issue it should be visible by 8" scope, and that the distance is no way up to 16 billion miles, meaning that the moons which are the size of pluto could not by any means come within the range of 12" scope from that distance even reflecting sunlight.
(NancyL) End prelist of accepted Q's so you can undo the +m, Jeremy.
(Mugada) just waiting for clear skys for 10 inch scope
(SteveD) is this the right room for the zetatalk discussion?
(Johnnie5) muzzled again?
(Jeremy) Interesting question list Nancy
(NancyL) I'm glad for that Q on Px visibility at start of the 7 week period, as this needs to be clarified.
(Jeremy) Relates to my question last week..
(Spanky) the STS have lost Africa and South America, but are they going to stake a claim to Antarctica, the new land, or the oceans?
(Bailey) NESCARA is also know as the reformation act
(HobophobE) http://community.webshots.com/user/gffcc
(AlphaCentauri) Happy new year
(HobophobE) Did you guys see that?
(CMell) yes
(Dan33) Would any of Tesla's inventions be appropriate after the shift?
(Obany) SteveD: not for discussions, but for the session yes ....
(AlphaCentauri) the last year
(NancyL) What SIZE will it be at the start, as we know "not larger than the moon" as a complex around Px at passage.
(Obany) Spanky: NO
(SteveD) TY
(NancyL) Spanky, there are no souls to be won in Antartica, so to speak, so now harvest there for them.
(Halo) The Harvest has happened a few times before our current transformation plan,so is it possible that some of the 4thD vistors of one alien type or another currently visiting earth could be incarnated by souls native to the Earth itself?
(TerrorDactyl) 14 weeks from now you say it should be the brightest thing in the sky - a red cross yes?
(CMell) they haven't quite lost in South America have they NancyL?
(IndayBadiday) Q for the ZT: Bush (that beady-eyed greedy despot) plans to send out more troops to the mid-east. how serious is Bush in going to war with Iraq?
(NancyL) Dan33, Tesla's inventions that WORK will still work, theoretical, will still NOT work, etc. No chance from today.
(HobophobE) The Kogi of the Andes will not be defeated, they will triumph over the aliens.
(Spanky) the zetas come from a planet where both orientations have territory, right?
(NancyL) Halo, yes.
(Halo) ok thanxs
(Bailey) Nancy, will the charity funds that have been promised come through in time to prep for pole shift?
(NancyL) Terror, WHERE are you coming up with that misquote!!!
(Stewart) How, or why do you think that South America and Africa are lost to STS?
(NancyL) ZT did NOT say "the brightest thing in the skies".
(NancyL) This is Terror disinfo, NOT ZT.
(TerrorDactyl) 7 weeks before mid May is March - 14 weeks from now
(NancyL) CMell, yes, they are not just in Africa, and losing that.
(Obany) okay ... i think it's time to start the session ....
(JWilliam) I would think the Sun will be the brightest in the sky ;o)
(Johnnie5) i agree.
(Tizza) Tterror:it should be visable to naked eye at that time... not brightest in sky
(BrianC1) Nancy, is there any way the Zetas could answer the personal question I asked you in the e-mail I sent you yesterday..It could help save many peoples lives.
(NancyL) Inday, Iraq has not changed. Bush wants to push ahead, the times will catch up with him re this, he will have more on his hands than this, soon, per the Z's. No change in their last statements.
(Anon) nice, JW
(CMell) good I don't like ppl like that
(IdolHarobed) TerrorDactyl: I think the Red Cross comes from an effect created by the moons, similar to this.
(TerrorDactyl) ok, so visible at least with naked eye yes?
(NancyL) Spanky, no, you did NOT get this from ZT. All life forms have SOME that turn to STS, yes.
(Tizza) yes
(NancyL) Apx 5% as a general guide.
(Halo) ZT has explained why the 12th planet mine for gold but are theses missions trully necesary for there survival? would there planet really cool off and die?
(ZooSpecimen) will we go 4D as soon as we reach 89% STO or is there a minimum time that we must wait (such as waiting till after PS).
(TerrorDactyl) there was a quote about it being like a red cross
(NancyL) Baily, what charity funds promised?
(Spanky) halo: they do this for better food harvests.
(IdolHarobed) TerrorDactyl: LIKE a Red Cross. Not exactly a Red Cross.
(NancyL) Biran, no persona Q's ever. Been that way since 1996 just ask Gerard (Obany) he knows.
(BrianC1) Nancy, Is there any possible way the Zetas can answer a personal question, I beg them to and will do pretty much anything to get it answered
(Tizza) in the final days i'd imagine at close range at time of passing it will appear as cross because of how close it is(think thats right?)
(Jeremy) Anyone notice how worried Tony Blair looked when he stated 2003 would see tough challenges ahead?
(NancyL) Terror, that is a Q on the agenda, just what it will look like, unaided by scope or whatever, 7 weeks before passaage, yes.
(BrianC1) Anything, even if it I must go into some agreement.
(Obany) Indeed Brian, things have changed .. Nancy doesn't have the time for that anymore
(IdolHarobed) TerrorDactyl: As Saturn looks like a cross sometimes...
(NancyL) Halo, Q on the gold, 12th Planet declined as kind of irrelevant to life on Earth today.
(BrianC1) It would only take 2 seconds and will save many lives.
(MikeAus) yep, Jeremy
(BrianC1) Mostly family and friends.
(NancyL) Jeremey, no, tell us!
(Tizza) when Aust prime minister John Howard preyed for peace in 2003 i began to cry
(NancyL) Brian, or so says YOU.
(Bailey) Nancy, there are charity funds tied up with these banking change overs and the new curancy tied up with precious metals
(NancyL) OK, going to start with Q1 ...
(NancyL) NESARA
(NancyL) 1. Could you please comment on Nesara (National Economic Stabilization And Recovery Act).
(NancyL) http://www.fourwinds10.com/NESARA/news/12-10-02-Intro-to-NESARA-tony-wicks.html
(NancyL) Others asked for comments during zetattalk sessions in May, March and November of 2002 so I believe there may be some interest.
(NancyL) ZT: NESCARA is a concept only, being floated out to determine interest in such a concept by the establishment who is aware that the common man will increasingly experience personal loss, and become increasingly desperate.
(NancyL) ZT: Taking the US as an example, the Fed has cut interest rates to a low not experienced since WWII, and is practicaly giving away money.
(NancyL) ZT: Bush and the GOP, against their usual inclinations to support ONLY the rich and powerful, have decided to allow federal funds to be paid to the unemployed, who have recently run through their compensation and are now without weekly checks of any kind.
(NancyL) ZT: The economic indicators are all down down down, though the "experts" pronounce otherwise, with one company after another going belly up or laying off workers.
(NancyL) ZT: Workers from private to government jobs are taking pay cuts or declining wage increases, even when waranted by cost of living increases, in order to retain their jobs at all.
(NancyL) ZT: The Stock Market, maintained under tight control by money managers given firm orders NOT to sell but to BUY, is floating where it is only because of a monumental control efforts, and would crash if neglected for a day.
(NancyL) ZT: The public did not buy for Christmas, in spite of promises in the media that this would be a BIG spending year, and as soon as 4Q results are in, the stocks will start plunging again.
(NancyL) ZT: Bankrupcies are at a record high, and will soon overwhelm the courts.
(NancyL) ZT: What can the establishent DO to forstall panic, riots, placards waved in the air over angry heads in front of the White House, a story that would surely get in the news SOMEWHERE, in spite of media control, and the cat out of the bag.
(NancyL) ZT: Would the public BUY that some general amesty was about to be issued? Would they even consider such a concept?
(NancyL) ZT: If rumors were to circulate, on the Internet, would this get around, get mentioned at coffee houses, at bars, at the workplace?
(NancyL) ZT: If so, then such rumors are worth floating, if not, then another tack needs to be taken.
(NancyL) ZT: NESCARA was such a test ground, and determined that where this was highly attractive to the man on the streets, NONE of whom are without debts, it was deemed impractical by any but the most childish.
(NancyL) ZT: Who would buy that banks would forgive all debts? This is how they make their LIVING.
(NancyL) ZT: Who would buy that politicians would resign? They fight tooth and nail to get INTO politics, where they are in the power structures, on the stage, and must be pried away from this life, in the main.
(NancyL) ZT: And how to adjust the inequities? If one man owes another a debt, is this not absolved, while debts to the banks are? Where is the line drawn?
(NancyL) ZT: Rent past due? Home owenership recently arranged forgiven the same as home ownership one payment from completion?
(NancyL) ZT: The concept is ludicrous, when examined as to workability, and after an intial perk of interest, soon falls into this type of discussion on HOW it would be implemented.
(NancyL) ZT: Thus, the establishment has determined that other means, such as frank payment of unemployment benefits, an extended coverage, needs to be done.
(NancyL) End ZT on this matter, followup?
(TerrorDactyl) Why would a stock crash lead the average man to assume an incoming planet (letting the cat outta the bag). 99 per cent of folks have never heard of such a thing
(gyflex) When are 4Q results expected in the US? before the end of January?
(Spanky) is the economy going down because of the behavior if big bosses who know whats coming?
(Jeremy) Nancy: Going back to Tony Blair briefly, there is an article at http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/2618835.stm where he was reported to have expressed grave concerns about the world economy and terrorism during 2003. These are not new trends however. I also saw another photo of him tied to this statement where he looked more worried, as if he had foreknowledge of something ahead. My own opinion is that he is contemplating
(NancyL) Terror, the crash is NOT deemed an alert re a planet, it is deemed a loss to the rich, who hold MOST of the stock.
(th3j0k3r83) http://www.skepticalmind.com/zetatalk.html
(Obany) !kick th3j0k3r83 no need for you to mention that
(VadSzatir) :-)
(BrianC1) Nancy, PLEASE ask the Zetas if it is ok to answer this one personal Question. I beg you and them, it is that important and I am sure they will know why. If not can they please give there thoughts on Laura Caswell.
(VadSzatir) Hi brothers and sisters
(Cybervviz) What is the advantage to make people more poor by a stock market crash, if increasing wealth will lead people to minimize the worth of money so they can transist to harmony and share ?
(VadSzatir) So this is that fantastic Zeta Universe
(BrianC1) Ok Nancy, what do the Zetas say about posting letters to friends, Neighbor's and on telephone posts about the coming shift and Zetatalk, do they recommend it or not?
(VadSzatir) Wao
(WestCoast) said not instead of now earlier jobs
(NancyL) Brian, NO NO NO
(BrianC1) Ok Nancy, what do the Zetas say about posting letters to friends, Neighbor's and on telephone posts about the coming shift and Zetatalk, do they recommend it or not?
(Justin) Why are the zetas helping us?
(Cybervviz) quoted Faxit - dharma artha kama moksa
(VadSzatir) Nancy can I ask you something
(Johnnie5) i'm curious just how bad Christmas sales were. the after sales are huge, as a possible answer.
(Obany) Justin: has been exlained
(Jeremy) Hang in there Brian, that can be answered..
(VadSzatir) As you surely know, I am from Hungary
(Justin) Is it available on the web?
(NancyL) Jeremey, someone from AU stated their PM looked pretty worried lately too.
(th3j0k3r83) Nancy You are as Bad as Religion. you have no shame do you???
(Jeremy) Nancy: Oh right, didn't know that
(Elwood) What magnitude is Nibiru currently?
(NancyL) Cyber, the rich don't think like you at all :-) unfortunately.
(Cybervviz) maybe their children, very soon by Birth
(Jeremy) BrianC1: The Zetas have said 'tell those who will listen, but not to be concerned about numbers'.
(NancyL) Brian, this is a personal action of YOUR, and thus up to YOU
(NancyL) OK, going onto Q2 ...
(VadSzatir) We can't see the Nibiru with telescopes
(Obany) Elwood: no time for that kind of questions i think ... so hush now
(NancyL) 2003 PREDICTIONS
(NancyL) 1. What are the Zeta's predictions for 2003?
(NancyL) ZT: All trends leading up to 2003 will of course continue, not only unabated but exacerbated.
(NancyL) ZT: This includes weird and wild weather out of season and extreme, increasing quakes in both frequency and Richter, and increasing illness both from known and familiar sources and microbes migrating to new locates.
(NancyL) ZT: Sabre ratting among goverments wanting their populace to quiet their demands WITHIN the country will continue, and this includes both the US approach to IRAQ and the N. Korean approach to the US.
(NancyL) ZT: The populace that fears war or attack tends to back the leaders, quiet their demands, and thus is more passive and maleable by the governing establishment.
(NancyL) ZT: Starvation will continue to quietly increase, not mentioned in the media except by accident in those countries that are normally expected to REACT and rescue.
(NancyL) ZT: Islands will go under the waves, the drown populace silenced and the media told to do likewise.
(NancyL) ZT: Tides will be inordinately unpredictable, high, flowing INTO city streets unlike ever before, but will be called a storm surge to place it into an ordinary concept, even if no storm exists.
(NancyL) ZT: So what will be NEW, during this time, the few months in 2003 going into the shift?
(NancyL) ZT: We have mentioned that increasingly personal preparations will be made, not so much new as taking expression where almost no one knows of someone NOT personally preparing to escape into the hills, to be a survivalist, to be more self sufficient.
(NancyL) ZT: These individuals, normally looked upon as a bit kooky, will not receive the ridicule they have in the past, simply because the times have become SO uncertain, that such action is now seen as almost insightful, bold, and wise.
(NancyL) ZT: Where we have predicted increasing quakes, imploding cities, this will reach the point during the months leading into the shift, in 2003, of leveling cities, demolishing them, due not only to quakes but the after effects such as fire and looting.
(NancyL) ZT: Look to the WTC disaster, where the burning material polluted and poisoned the surrounding area, such that now many humans are sicked if they were not protected with masks during this time.
(NancyL) ZT: Devastated cities, shaky and unsafe, about to collapse under an aftershock, or another adjustment in the ground in the case of imploding citites in areas under a stretch, will be deemed unsafe so the residents CANNOT return to their lives there.
(NancyL) ZT: Now what? Where will they go? It will be in many cases winter, cold, or certainly not the balmy summer that one would expect a tent city to be errected in.
(NancyL) ZT: Sudden barracks? Transport to other cities? Refugee problems in Bosnia and other war torn areas in the past requires TIME to erect refugee camps to house the desperate.
(NancyL) ZT: Take a CITY, and move it outside its boundaries, and you have a governmental nightmare.
(NancyL) ZT: This is likely to result in media blackouts, as quickly as possible after the disaster.
(NancyL) ZT: Military commandeering of suburban housing such that all house several families, sharing the supplies and food, at gunpoint.
(NancyL) ZT: Martial Law to be enacted at least in local areas, if need be.
(NancyL) ZT: At the same time, increasing information flow about the inbound planet, the hypothesis of a coming pole shift, will be occurring.
(NancyL) ZT: As surprising as it seems, those in government, in ALL governments, are NOT altogether evil and thinking only of themselves as the Bush Administration would give evidence of.
(NancyL) ZT: These are a few usurpers at the top, NOT the embodiment of the government in totality.
(NancyL) ZT: In the media too, there will be those who simply use the slightest crack to ANNOUNCE bad news, and theories, and safety steps, waving their hands in the air and professing momentary insanity and emotional moments to explain their actions.
(NancyL) ZT: Once OUT, such broadcasts cannot be taken back, and pile on each other, creating an information repository circulating among the populace that creates the impression of SOMETHING being withheld by the establishement.
(NancyL) ZT: As with all press briefings, officials NOT addressing the issues are telling a story as much as if they DID address the issues.
(NancyL) ZT: Avoidance says something. WHY is the issue being avoided. WHY is the official being evasive. WHY are several officials, caught in different circumstances, being evasive on the same issue?
(NancyL) ZT: This virtually screams that a coverup is being foised on the public. And then the riots start.
(NancyL) ZT: Riots will be suppressed in the name of terrorism, controlling looting and recovering victims after a natural disaster, and keeping the peace.
(NancyL) ZT: Where the establishement is being pressed for answers, they will have no comment because they are BUSY, trying to effect rescue and safety and the like.
(NancyL) ZT: Thus, expect any government NOT being forthcoming to its populace to be increasingly unavailable, no comment.
(NancyL) ZT: When rotation stoppage comes, there will be military assigned to keep mass civilians quiet, such as in tent cities surrounding collapse cities.
(NancyL) ZT: When the military discovers that something THEY had not been informed of is in process, then they do not stand their posts.
(NancyL) ZT: Thus vacated, true migration by the populace AND the military occurs, all running in any and every direction.
(NancyL) ZT: If no one knows what is safe, they run FROM where they are, TO anything else.
(NancyL) ZT: Thus bridges will become clogged by cars moving in BOTH directions, both in and out of cities, for instance, and abandoned by those in panic who can no longer sit in stalled cars.
(NancyL) ZT: This situation is described by us in detail, in the Countdown Signs, in the Most Terrible Day, and other ZetaTalk pages already provided.
(NancyL) ZT: But immagine that this situation CAN occur before the week of rotation stoppage if the situation in a local warrants.
(NancyL) ZT: Thus, sighs to watch for, that YOUR locale, YOUR country or city, YOUR governmnet, is about to go into these final hour stances, are important, as YOU may find yourself locked into panic tides EARLY, depending upon where you live and work.
(NancyL) ZT: If your government is increasingly unwilling to speak to the media, about significant catastrophies happening WITHIN the country, this is a warning sign.
(NancyL) ZT: If your government has assigned military to dislocated citizens, to prevent looting and keep the peace, and the military in these areas is looking distressed, uneasy, this is a warning sign.
(NancyL) ZT: Thus, we repeat our advise that those wanting to survive, who have established the locations and life style they think fits this outcome, should NOT tarry, holding onto comfortable lifestyles or endless denial.
(NancyL) ZT: What have you got to lost by relocating early? Only money and status.
(NancyL) ZT: What have you got to lose by delaying? Your life, your health, and that of your loved ones who are depending upon YOU to make the proper decision.
(NancyL) End ZT on this matter, followup?
(Karen) When the US gov't becomes unavailable will Gore step to the plate ( for I thought when he declined to run for President he was saving his strength and using the time to plan how to help).
(SteveD) Why is the government allowing this discussion to occur if this is so?
(BrianC1) Zetas / Nancy: When (Zetas approx. best guess) will reputable astronomers start reporting the (approach of a) "New Large Object / Planet" (approaching or not)? If they don't, why not? Are they scared? Of what? Will anything of the new Object get into any National News Sources? This is important because most family and friends don't seem to believe anything until they see it from some Televised News Source. Will any governments such
(OceanTree) Are the current weather changes artificial in order to prepare the populace or by indstry waste gas /climate warming or caused by Nibiru directly or a mix of all three?
(PlanetX) Where is now the location of PlanetX,and why we havent seen it by now?:)
(DH) Public can't confirm Steves's PX sighting with telescopes. Sure seems like there would be more earth changes by Jan 2003 as well.
(ZooSpecimen) Will UFO sightings be on the increase? If so, how much of an increase, where ?
(BobS) RE the imploding cities and quakes... I understand Z's will not say exactly where this will occur or exactly when, but can they give a month? January? February? Or will nothing SUBSTANTIAL occur until April?
(Halo) What about the idea of creating a small pamplet with information about the Poleshift as in the cause of disaster and safty tips for survival.Everyone could do one for there own local area and hand them out both before and after the shift.
(AlphaCentauri) But when will information about Planet X begin to be avalaible in the news? 1, 2 or 3 months before the shift?
(Walt2525) What is the biggest city in America the Zetas see imploding before the shift? Is this the final catalyst for the economic collapse?
(Torbj) if itīs ok with a new Q at this time, i wonder if the zetas can tell us if there is something not reported by the media, behind the soon to be, "total chaos" in Venezuela?
(TaL0N) is this the DNC or what?
(NancyL) Karen, I have often though that Gore will be a man on the scene at the last minute, just a personal opinion, knowing him, etc.
(NancyL) However, this is in the hands of man, unpredictable, therefore.
(Jeremy) Nancy: I'm not sure if I can relocate easily now, becuase since I'm also unemployed it is very hard to secure rented accommodation!
(th3j0k3r83) YOU guys ARE SO GULLIBLE!!! WAKE UP THIS WOMAN IS A FAKE/KOOK!!! she is in it for the $$$MONEY$$$!!! She is using the same Tactics as Religions do... FEAR , FEAR, FEAR... Money = Fear/Gullible ppl THESE ARE NOT PREDICTIONS... She is feeding into your FEARS.... Do you not see???
(Karen) k thanks
(Obany) !kick th3j0k3r83
(SteveD) ty
(Richard1) thank you Obany
(Woogles) I wasn't aware zetatalk sold anything ;|
(IdolHarobed) NancyL: What about all this noise about human cloning on the news recently?
(NancyL) SteveD, they are mixed feelings. They would NOT kill ZT thought they tried, due to Zeta protection, and also there is a faction that favors giving ZT message more air time so to speak, so people can survive to be the slave labor class of the future, or simply because some feel they deserve to know!
(VadSzatir) What can you say about Gyurcsok József from Hungary
(Marstrax) i would like to know about this phase shift
(VadSzatir) He said something about the cataclysm in 2003
(NancyL) The many attempts to discredit ZT make it kind of obvious that the message IS true, and so this kicks back on those doing it, etc.
(Sapphire) Nancy, is it ok if I sell Zeta t-shirts on www.zetatalk.org? And I'm thinking of issueing email accounts with zetatalk.net...
(Torbj) if itīs ok with a new Q at this time, i wonder if the zetas can tell us if there is something not reported by the media, behind the soon to be, "total chaos" in Venezuela?
(NancyL) Ocean, the weather changes are not artificial!
(VadSzatir) But he don't know anything about Zetas.....
(th3j0k3r83) Nancy: o, and you don't try to discredit others? haha
(th3j0k3r83) your full of it
(BrianC1) Zetas / Nancy: When (Zetas approx. best guess) will reputable astronomers start reporting the (approach of a) "New Large Object / Planet" (approaching or not)? If they don't, why not? Are they scared? Of what? Will anything of the new Object get into any National News Sources? This is important because most family and friends don't seem to believe anything until they see it from some Televised News Source. Will any governments such
(VadSzatir) It will be very important for the Hungarians
(JoeyB) NancyL/Zs: Will some of the assistance received in the aftertime be toward healing illness that can't be healed today?
(Earth420) BrianC1 wait till March, proof then...
(NancyL) Biran, if the inbound Px is not in the news, this is due to media blackout, etc. JFK assassination has NEVER been explained to the public, so media blackout/coverup works!
(VadSzatir) So what can you say
(VadSzatir) ???
(Obany) !addtimedban th3j0k3r83 400 bye
(VadSzatir) Or it's too stupid question???
(SteveD) ty again
(NancyL) DH, it is a linear increase up to the shift, not exponential re earth changes.
(Jeremy) JoeyB: No, healing by aliens is only given in execeptional circumstances; already explained in ZT
(NancyL) BobS, no month, no place, sorry.
(BrianC1) Ok Nancy, what do the Zetas say about posting letters to friends, Neighbor's and on telephone posts about the coming shift and Zetatalk, do they recommend it or not?
(NancyL) Alph, news about Px in the media is in the hands of man, thus unpredictable!
(Justin) Brian, why not?
(Obany) BrianC1: that's up to you Nancy already said that
(NancyL) Halo, the nonprofit arm of TT HAS that booklet already!
(VadSzatir) Gyurcsok said that he heal with the help of Aliens
(VadSzatir) Is this true???
(NancyL) Walt, I've mentioned NYC a lot, right? Not exempt, in my opinion.
(Earth420) BrianC1 word of mouth works good...
(NancyL) Torbj, Venezuela is what is seems like, nothing under the surface, I gather.
(ZetaBalls) To Nancy, i believe/feel/think you are false prophet because from reading your website i get a sense of division, fear, and guilt. You use the same tactics as religions do, but in another subtle form. There is nothing comforting about your website. When 2003 comes and Go. All will realize how false prophet you are.
(NancyL) Idol, cloning was discussed last week, you were HERE then too, were you not?
(DH) no food shortages..all fast food places running 99 cent specials..next to free
(BrianC1) That'r right Obany, I am going to make this in the news more than you can imagine, it is going to be posted everywhere. I will probably have to bye a dozen printers to print off the number of pamphlets that I'm going to make.
(Woogles) fucks saje
(Nmi) later maybe
(Sapphire) ZetaBalls has style!
(Marstrax) i would like to know about this phase shift
(NancyL) Vad, 1. does he predict, 2. is he accurate? NO? Then no comment, our rule since the start of 2002.
(Marstrax) can the zetas explain ?
(IdolHarobed) BrianC1: You can begin to introduce them to the idea of a poleshift using the mammoth problem, for instance... I used that.
(NancyL) Sappire, ZT is a TRADEMARKED name, you CANNOT use this is .net or any other way!
(VadSzatir) Nancy, you play with the life of thousands.... Do you know what will be, if you lying???... It's not a game anymore!!!
(Obany) well but he doesn't know that flooding doesn't owrk
(NancyL) No one speaks for ZT but ZT.
(Obany) NancyL: he is using it to DEBUNK you
(Phallus) say ... would any of you be interested in selling me your homes and cars, since ya won't be needing them much longer?
(JWilliam) Sapphire is losing it. whats the matter boy? The truth getting to obvious? and to hard to deny.. How many names you gonna use today.
(Marstrax) Vad shes not lying
(Teck) SuP GuYs?!
(SteveD) ok next question please
(Teck) Ok
(Sapphire) Nancy, my zetatalk.org will be a parody site.
(NancyL) Joey, your life in the aftertime is as it is today. Die from cancer now, die from cancer then, etc.
(Teck) I hAvE a QuEsTiOn
(JWilliam) Sapphire you ARE a parody ;o)
(Obany) !addtimedban Phallus 400 bye no stupid questions
(Teck) I hAvE a QuEsTiOn
(Jeremy) Sapphire: You seem to be overlooking the earth changes accuracy record of ZT, yet calling it a scam and a hoax
(QueenVee) JWilliam: LOL!!!
(Sapphire) JWilliam: what's the latest on the swirling moons?
(Marstrax) i have a question what will happen after the shift to fourth dimension can the zetas explain please?
(NancyL) Obany, I will take the flooding out in the log, only once, etc.
(QueenVee) Sapphire: get a life, for God's sake
(Justin) Jeremy: i myselft, must admit, that i do not seem convinced either.
(Bailey) Nancy, do you suggest, if scrounging funds to bye land or food, if you have to choose?
(Obany) Okay Nancy
(VadSzatir) Na Nancz he is not predict
(MikeO) There's been a bunch of assholes in here tonight. Apparently the elite are hiring more disruptors!
(NancyL) OK, I had that last Q and will quickly do it, briefly.
(Justin) Bailey: water then food is more important than land
(VadSzatir) But he said it in 1997
(NancyL) PX VISIBILITY
(NancyL) 1. The you have stated that PX would be visible 7.3 weeks prior to the shift or from the distance from Saturn during day time. Saturn is larger than PX, likely to reflect more sunligth than PX, is not visible by any means during the nigth or the day, even taken the PX dust, moon effects etc, would not make that difference.
(NancyL) 2. Saturn would not be visible during the night should you try to observe it, certainly not by naked eye!, barely even by 8" inc. amateur scope, day or nigth, you will face this dilemna very soon, considering if it is visible by 12"scope.
(NancyL) 3. Since it has been visible sept.15 by 12" scope the speed/distance issue it should be visible by 8" scope, and that the distance is no way up to 16 billion miles, meaning that the moons which are the size of pluto could not by any means come within the range of 12" scope from that distance even reflecting sunlight.
(NancyL) This is, in essence, why can Px be seen when Saturn cannot, and it is larger, has moons, etc.
(NancyL) ZT: We have stated that Planet X will be visible in the daytime sky, 7 weeks before passage.
(NancyL) ZT: Given that we have stated that passage is shortly after May 15, 2003, as at this time those wanting to survive should be AT their safe locations, this is putting the visibility into the last week of March.
(NancyL) ZT: at the earliest.
(NancyL) ZT: We have stated that the Px complex, the planet body itself and its immediate cloud of dust and moons, will appear not larger than the Moon upon passage.
(NancyL) ZT: As can be seen from the recent imaging, starting with Dec 13-14 images and quite obvious in the Dec 27-28 images, the swirls of moons are far outside of the immediate area of the Px body.
(NancyL) ZT: Thus, upon passage the object seen as not larger than the moon is the PX body and close hugging dust cloud and moons, but the swirls trail back, some 5 milliion miles behind the PX body, in individual swirls that dance around each other.
(NancyL) ZT: As this is still coming dead on, during this time, it will appear to be waffing to one side or the other, or overlapping as was seen on the Dec 28th images, with the motion taking the form of a fire dragon in the skies, to the ancients.
(NancyL) ZT: Now, what will this look like EARLY in the 7 week period? Certainly not like the Moon, nor a fire dragon.
(NancyL) ZT: Planet X is visible when at the orbit of Saturn, [by the unaided eye], where Saturn is NOT, for the same reasons it is visible NOW.
(NancyL) ZT: Is it a star, sending starlight to the amateur scopes? NO, but it is a brown dwarf, exuding heat and light, thus the predominance in the red light spectrum.
(NancyL) ZT: Comets, those dirty snowballs WELL inside the solar system, are found before they outgass and reflect sunlight only by sophisticated means.
(NancyL) ZT: They are certainly NOT visible to the unaided eye, even when close, until they start to fan out their tails, close enough to the sun to start outgassing from the heat of the sun.
(NancyL) ZT: This gives some notion of the importance of REFLECTING sunlight to those objects not ordinarily giving forth their own heat or light waves.
(NancyL) ZT: Planet X, which is now about midway along it its path between its hover point between its foci and the point of passage, is rapidly increasing in brightness.
(NancyL) ZT: It rivals existing stars on the star charts used as comparisons in the image sessions.
(NancyL) ZT: It is now appearing, when seen as moon swirls overlapping each other, dead on, as BLOBS, SPLOTCHES, so SOME light is coming from these sources.
(NancyL) ZT: This light is from Planet X itself, the smoldering brown dwarf warm enough to support life as Earth does, comparible in tempearature.
(NancyL) ZT: When it reaches the orbit of Saturn, it will be much smaller than the Moon we have placed as comparison during passage.
(NancyL) ZT: And it will be redish, blurring about the sides as the moon swirls waff from side to side.
(NancyL) ZT: It will be seen in the SAME PLACE by the ignornant public, noted by a famer in his fields, commented to others, and growing weekly.
(NancyL) ZT: We expect the establishment to either say nothing, no comment, pretending nothing is there as they CANNOT explain it, or to float an excuse that it is a comet, or perhaps Mars coming close, these explanations floated out via normally unscientific channels to the man on the street, believalbe only to the ignorant.
(NancyL) ZT: But the unique quality of this redish object, and the accompanying changes, will turn talk to prophecy, as it ought.
(NancyL) End ZT on this matter.
(TerrorDactyl) where exactly do we look in the sky at the end of march? which constellation will it appear from?
(BobS) At what point (if any) will it be unable to be seen by telescopes at night?
(GWilra) thank you NL
(Cdrw2003) Nancy: will you give back all the money to the people who bought into your predictions?
(Sapphire) Nancy, are you going to return the donations you have received to the "non-profit" after May, June and July come and go with no sign of Planet X ?
(ChiefSimi) How many moons does Planet-X have? Can we see a NUMBER? Because of what rules, which the zetas have to agree to, can not we hear any number?
(Johnnie5) interesting.
(DH) food shortages??.. its cheap and available in USA!
(Jeremy) Nancy: Thanks to the Zetas for telling us PX will first become visible as naked eye object when at the orbit of Saturn. I have been intrigued by that for a long time.
(NancyL) End of hour! I have one last statement I prepared on sci.astro postings, something I noted when web wrapping the last batch of postings deserving a place on my web site ...
(JWilliam) Sapphire: You are so determined to be right, you are blinded to the facts. The only thing that will change your mind, is when the truth knocks you on your ass.
(MikeO) Planet X has moved from the hover-point to the midway-to-passage-point quickly.
(Pen) I'll be back on May 16th to say "You have been owned." Until then, I wish you a fruitful life.
(SilkAway) Saturn is a naked eye visible object
(NancyL) CDR, will you HOUSE those you are misleading NOW? Where do you live so they can come stay with you?
(ThereIsNoPX) One schizophrenic and a bunch of uneducated retards. What a glorious cult!
(SilkAway) Zetas need to look up
(Obany) !addtimedban cdrw2003 900 bye
(Halo) Thanks for everything Nancy
(Obany) !addtimedban ThereIsNoPX 900 bye
(SteveD) Thanks
(NancyL) COMMENT: SCI.ASTRO
(NancyL) I web wrapped sci.astro postings worthy in my opinion of being read to the http://www.zetatalk.com/usenet/use01033.htm batch page this morning. I could not help but notice how MANY debunkers try to be utterly anonymous.
(Sapphire) Nancy, there is still time to stop this before people kill themselves.
(NancyL) Examples: O'Brother (nobody@nowhere.com); The Commentator (guess@whocares.net); db (no@spam.for.me). So I guess we can trace these guys and find out WHO they are :-).
(NancyL) And then we had I'm Open Minded who never DID have a name or city or state.
(SilkAway) I hope you didn't say Saturn wasn't visible
(MikeO) I'd say the presence of so many asshole-disruptors today is one more proof that the Zeta message is real.
(NancyL) And a quote from JWilliam, who noted on his postings "To: idon't/howmo,probably Yaada and the other sock puppet names you use on Sci.Astro and elsewhere; It really makes me wonder how many of you debunkers there really are? I have identified 5 names used by this individual over the past year. Do we see an effort by one projected as many? Yes!"
(Marstrax) Nancy can the zetas explain the dimension shift?
(MB) If anyone is interested in sci.astro posts, they should visit sci.astro.
(NancyL) So, if they are SO right, and confident of this, then why be anonymous? Humm ...
(Spanky) hey Nancy, look familiar? http://members.cox.net/g0llum/
(Cdrw2003) why are all who are skeptical being banned??? are you using the same tactics as silencing those who speak against you???
(NancyL) Gollum is NOT what the hybrids look like :-).
(Obany) NancyL: IMO came out ... he posted his real name so to say
(Sapphire) Nancy, you can use google to search sci.astro postings... or didn't you know that?
(NancyL) Obany, REALLY, what city, what name, what state, etc?
(Earth420) I guess thats what happens when you are scared and cant accept.
(MB) Silk, she sais something incomprehensible about Saturn, but I'm not sure what exactly.
(VadSzatir) Nancy what can you say about the child that are born with indigo aura
(VadSzatir) ???
(Obany) !kick Cdrw2003
(SilkAway) Zetas said Staurn was not visible at it's orbit
(VadSzatir) Nancy what can you say about the child that are born with indigo aura???
(TerrorDactyl) do they look like Frodo then?
(SilkAway) Its a naked eye object
(Jeremy) PX is much smaller than Saturn or Jupiter of course, which is why I was curious about whereabouts in the solar system PX it would be when it first becomes visible to the naked eye
(Sapphire) IMO is John Oliver.
(Marstrax) Nancy can the zetas explain the dimension shift ?
(GWilra) Cdrw2003: we're tired of the bellowing herds who refuse to read for themselves and learn.
(Spanky) are the hybrids like the tall or the short zetas?
(Ititj) The skeptics are being banned because this group doesn't want to think that theres a chance of them being wrong.
(Obany) NancyL moment will give it to you by a message
(VadSzatir) Is that true that they are born for the 4.Dension???
(TerrorDactyl) Nancy - which constellation do we look to in March?
(Marstrax) i think they are banned becouse we dont need them to tell us otherwise
(Spanky) just basing it on http://www.zetatalk.com/hybrids/h24.htm
(Earth420) Why are you coming here anyway. You dont believe, then go hang out with your homies!
(S7L) By the way, was Planet X supposed to be a *day-time* visible object by March 1st or so, that is, about 7 weeks prior?
(Earth420) Spankin it...
(NancyL) Terror, can you look at the Path page that has been there since 1995? http://www.zetatalk.com/theword/tword03h.htm
(Ititj) So whats everyone gonna be doing on May 16th?
(SilkAway) And yes, Saturn is visible daytime in a telescope
(Obany) IMO is John Oliver, Associate Chairman of the Department of Astronomy, University of Florida. My home page is at http://www.astro.ufl.edu/~oliver/ . I have been doing astronomical research (including imaging) for more than 40 years and have extensive experience and publications on photographic processing, the design and implementation of electronograhic cameras, and the use of CCD cameras. I am, in fact, open to ideas that are out of the main stream and my work on ways that ancient peoples could have determined longitudes has recently appeared in print in both books and journals.
(MB) Hey, Earth, if Zetafolks stop spammin sci.astro, we'd sure stay out of here.
(NancyL) S7L, 7 weeks before passage is NOT March 1st, please don't disinfo as I know you like to do.
(GWilra) Ititj: we'll be thinking about how foolish you were.
(Earth420) Its not really about that MB
(Marstrax) Nancy can the zetas explain the dimension shift ?
(JWilliam) So many debunkers out today. Plotting a course for PX must have raised the stakes.
(VadSzatir) You said Nancy that people can't levitate... But than what about the TM sutra program???
(S7L) NancyL: well, I couldn't count it, but I think March 1st is about 6 weeks? Isn't that giving you an advantage? Or did I miscount? First of April? I'm sorry.
(NancyL) Well good for him :-).
(Spanky) you can go back and forth in time, density shifting is going sideways.
(StevenB) Do the Zeta's have the ability the prevent the Pole Shift even if it's against the rules ?
(SilkAway) Connecting dots is NOT plotting a course J William Dell
(S7L) umm yes. First of Fourth month.
(Jeremy) The key to understanding PXs visiblity at Saturns orbit, even during the daytime, is that PX EMITS light of its own, as well as reflecting it from the Sun
(Ititj) You can't call me foolish. Just as I can't call you foolish. To call anyone foolish is foolish.
(S7L) not first of Third mont that March is.
(TerrorDactyl) Nancy i am looking now - thanks
(JWilliam) Silk I'll answer you in Sci.Astro tomorrow ;o)
(Sapphire) Obany and JWilliam feel that all of this is some sort of fantasy role playing game (RPG)...don't ruin it for them. :)
(S7L) Anyway, was it supposed to be a day-time visible object or not?
(SilkAway) Sure you will Dell, more nonsence?
(Stewart) Are those babies born in that cult really clones?
(Cybervviz) You forgot my question about http://digilander.libero.it/aliendream/wave.html, grrrr
(Earth420) This is not about who is foolish! This is the least of our problems dont you think?
(NancyL) S7L, 7 weeks back from May 15 is March 1ST???? Put the beer down, S7L!
(JWilliam) Sapphire: Take your meds ;o)
(GWilra) Ititj: read quitely for yourself, but leave us alone.
(Jeremy) LOL
(Marstrax) NancyL can you please explain the dimension shift into the fourth dimension?
(VadSzatir) I seen people tha do levitating..... Then why zetas said that it's impossible for us???
(SilkAway) We'll give you April Fools Day Nancy
(PG13) JWilliam: i think Nancy should take her meds too
(SilkAway) 2 extra weeks
(NancyL) 2 weeks in May, 4 weeks in April, leaves 1 week in March. Right?
(Obany) Sapphire: oooh you are so wrong .... this is not a fantasy role playing game for me, and neither for JWD
(Jeremy) I don't think so Silk..
(Obany) !kick PG13
(Earth420) Saphire ihes got his dress on, dont ruin his dress up game!
(S7L) NancyL: yes the horse is dead, I was wrong. But the question stands.
(Ititj) GWilra: I read about this thing, why are you getting all defensive. I ask what you guys will be up to on May 16th, and you call me foolish.
(SilkAway) Yo don't think so what, Jeremy?
(NancyL) Silk is going to explain HER real name and city and occupation next week! Because shes a BIG person and can APPOLGIZE and admit when she's wrong!
(SilkAway) I doubt it Nancy
(Gelo) Nancy can the zetas explain how metamorphosis (from caterpillar to btterfly) occurs? our science dont have the answers
(Sapphire) Nancy, Silk already did that a long time ago... use Google -- it's your friend.
(S7L) didn't Silk already tell all that personal info?
(SilkAway) I don't need cult whackos knocking on my door
(JWilliam) Ititj: Earliest is May 15
(NancyL) Just like last week when she was WRONG Again! about the Gypsies and could only snarl more Q's to try to change the subject.
(VadSzatir) I had a friend who can levitate with T technique.... You can't say anything???
(Ititj) Gelo: It's God's will. Thats how caterpillars do it.
(Earth420) Silk told all the guys to believe her, and if she ends up wrong than shell give it all up!
(GWilra) ititj: when the handwriting is on the wall, to look the other way and make excuses is called what?
(SilkAway) I admit that I was wrong about the Roma
(TerrorDactyl) its wrong to post your name and address to the world
(SilkAway) Will you admit that your Zetas are wrong about Saturn?
(Obany) Gelo: for what purpose, just to please you ooh come on ...
(NancyL) Sap, she did NOT say her city, so her name means nothing.
(Jeremy) Why do the debunkers keep ignoring earth changes? Aren't they supposed to be OBJECTIVE???
(PG13) Obany: Ban Sapphire???
(Ititj) GWilra: It's called opinion
(NancyL) She said "east coast" only.
(NancyL) Vague.
(SilkAway) Saratoga Springs NY Nancy, I DID state it
(Sapphire) Nancy, she said her city...
(Gelo) Obany: i thnk its got something to do with shifting
(VadSzatir) I think that it's important???
(VadSzatir) I think that there will be poleshift
(NancyL) How many S. Macintyre are there on the East Coast? Common name.
(Sapphire) ..and where she worked.
(VadSzatir) But the zetas lying to us in some things
(MB) The term gypsies is pretty loose. I don't think it refers to one group.
(TerrorDactyl) who gives a FUCK what peeps names and addresses are?
(Halo) This is so childish.....
(Kwandrie1) this is a chat for those who are believers or polite....that is stated in many places
(SilkAway) Hardly common Nancy
(Gelo) i do
(GWilra) Ititj: then we too have an opinion. I for one see great truth here and on May 16 I will mourn those who couldn't get the point.
(Sapphire) TerrorDactyl: Nancy cares... to intimidate.
(NancyL) She had a company that requires moving about, travel, thus AOl, but the company was not named, nor the city.
(Woogles) There is evidence of previous poleshifts, this does not necessitate the existance of a Planet X, but does, in the minds of some, support said existance.
(SilkAway) So Nancy, what about Saturn?
(Jeremy) The debunkers are covering their trails to avoid future reprisals against them
(VadSzatir) And please don't say that we are to young to understand some things
(SilkAway) Why do the Zetas say it's not visible?
(MB) Terror, Nancy's trying to shut Sapphire up, because she doesn't like what see says.
(Marstrax) NancyL how come you wont answer my question ?
(PG13) To Nancy, i believe/feel/think you are false prophet because from reading your website i get a sense of division, fear, and guilt. You use the same tactics as religions do, but in another subtle form. There is nothing comforting about your website. When 2003 comes and Go. All will realize how false prophet you are.
(Obany) Silk-away: ooh come nn ... you are trying it again don't you
(Ititj) GWilra: I know you have an opinion, one that is as equally valid is mine.
(NancyL) We do know Steve Havas of Vancouver, J William Dell and even his company, and Nancy Lieder of North Freedom, but its Sara Mac somewhere on the East Coast.
(TerrorDactyl) You either believe or you don't - i don't see what the hell difference it makes having someones address - you gonna send a christmas card?
(SilkAway) Obany, read back
(StevenB) I feel if the Zeta Ret's want to help they should prevent the Pole Shift, if I could help them I would do so.
(Cybervviz) Why do so much people do not trust the Zetan's ? Isn't it because they feel so cold, why are they not so warm at all, and so mental (only) ?
(MikeO) At least Silk is in a fairly safe area.
(SilkAway) Nancy, answer the question
(Halo) Must we waste so much time and energy fighting against one-another..
(Richard1) well said Nancy
(NancyL) SARAH KNOWS SHE IS DISHING OUT DISINFO AND THUS IS AFRIAD YOU ALL WILL COME AFTER HER, ELSE SHE'D BE UP FRONT!
(Gelo) PG13: u are enttled to ur own opinion
(Earth420) We are not here to fight!
(SilkAway) Why did the Zetas claim Saturn is not visible?
(GWilra) Ititj: of course, but why challenge those who prefer to go with this flow and maximize real communication?
(SilkAway) when its a naked eye object
(MB) Obany, Nancy did say something about Saturn that sounded pretty weird.
(Ititj) GWilra: When did i challenge?
(NancyL) Cyber, people attack the messenger, if a frightening message. Not new.
(Obany) Silk-away: shut up
(Bip-Bip) PG13: LOL, can YOU find a different way to give a message like this ? thought about that ? tried? no? shut up
(SilkAway) I'm attacking the statement Nancy, not you
(Sapphire) Nancy, we just want to help you.
(Jeremy) Silk: Can the average person spot Saturn with their naked eye at night??
(NancyL) I suspect she is associated with the banking and stock market industries in NYC, myself.
(SilkAway) Yes Jeremy
(MB) Nancy, tell us where you are.
(Obany) there is no need to help Nancy, Sahpphire
(SilkAway) Its a mag 0 object
(Cybervviz) Nancy, I believe You are a valid medium and You mean it well, i just don't trust Your source
(PG13) Nancy: i wanna help the people you mislead
(Johnnie5) hope for the best, prepare for the worst. what's wrong with that
(Johnnie5) ?
(PG13) just like religions do
(SilkAway) mag -0,4 actually
(Obany) !addtimedban pg14 900 bye
(SilkAway) brighter than mag 0
(Earth420) This aint no religion...
(Ititj) GWilra: It seems to me that you feel this theory is so unsound that you are threatened by any other theory.
(Monk) Nancy: cant the zetas tell you all the info about those type of things or its againist the rules?
(Obany) !addtimedban pg13 900 bye
(Gelo) i think a dobsonian telescope (10") can see Saturn
(Jeremy) Silk: I say they can't, unless they know where to look; where the ecliptic runs along the sky
(Cybervviz) Zetans made many mistakes in the past !
(MB) Jeremy, Saturn is a fairly bright object.
(SilkAway) Gelo, binoculars cn see Saturn
(NancyL) Gelo, but without a scope? This is what is was being compared to.
(Cybervviz) anyway, who not ;-)
(SilkAway) Saturn is one of the brightest objects in the night sky
(Jurian) Silk-away: not anymore, the zeta's hid it :p
(Richard1) funny how the same people (attackers) appear week after week. If you don't believe why come here ... and don't tell me I need saving
(Bailey) I agree Johnnie 5, pray for the best and prep for the worst the best we can
(SilkAway) lol Jurian :)
(Jeremy) Ok then. Go out on the street at night and ask someone to point out Saturn!
(StevenB) What we need to do is band together and prevent the pole shift and get to that 89% sto.
(MB) Saturn is visible with the unaided eye!
(Cybervviz) But i would see a speed course 'raising vibration'
(Halo) wow almost 2hrs...
(Sapphire) Richard1: There's still time to wake up.
(Jeremy) Silk: Your argument is flimsy
(S7L) MB: at night-time.
(SilkAway) Jeremy, because no one knows where it is, that makes it invisible?
(S7L) MB: not daytime. I think that was the issue here.
(Richard1) my eyes are WIDE OPEN
(GWilra) Ititj: quite the contrary. And if you have to manufacture a comeback as weak as that, why try?
(Woogles) StevenB: why prevent it? Look at the sad state of affairs.. embrace it! viv le destruction!
(NancyL) Actually, all the disinfo agents that work together (SUCH an obvious clue) are a clue that ZT is a threatening message?
(SilkAway) Saturn is visible in daytime in my 8" scope
(SilkAway) as is Jupiter
(Gelo) really now
(Jeremy) Silk: By the way, here is a triva Q for you. What constellation is Mars in during March/April?
(Cybervviz) It's treaten if You known TOUGHTS are FORCES
(Humor) These conversations sound like all the others just before a pole shift in the past history of the Earth. The results are the same when PX arrives. lol
(Earth420) They are awful Nancy... I expect more debunkers in the coming months...
(SilkAway) March and April, I'd have to look
(NancyL) Why? Because it is crazy (notice how those CCD cameras record what a crazy person pronounced, those cameras are brain washed cult members).
(Gelo) humor has a good sense of humor
(NancyL) But because it is TRUE.
(Jurian) yeah, right, everyone who disagrees with zetatalk works for NASA
(Ititj) GWilra: Oh that wasn't a comeback. That is just what I see. Why else what this group be so negative towards those with other theories?
(Jeremy) Silk: Say, you ought to KNOW that
(MB) Nancy, so if you're nuts and people say you're nuts, you are obviously not nuts?
(StevenB) Woogles : That is negative thinking, be positive and make a change.
(Cybervviz) What You believeand enforce You will have because You program time !
(SilkAway) Why should I know that Jeremy?
(NancyL) The sci.astro crowd did themselves a BIG disservice last summer when they turned sci.astro into alt.flame.zetatalk in my absense :-).
(Cybervviz) Yes, provide us a solution
(Humor) ty, Gelo...trying to keep the spirits up before the shift!
(Cybervviz) not me, us
(Jeremy) you are an astronomer Silk
(GWilra) Ititj: it isn't neg thinking that gets someone outed, it the negative challenge that goes nowhere.
(Woogles) StevenB: everyone dies is a positive change
(Gelo) Silk: i totally believe that you have a habit of looking up at stars... not!
(NancyL) BOY! did people notice! I could not have alerted more folks myself if I'd tried, those stupid debunkers did it FOR me!
(Sapphire) Nancy, you already took over sci.astro. You've owned it with your PX spam for quite some time. Rejoice!
(SilkAway) Jerey, I'd guess Sagitarius
(Earth420) No Silk is in her pocket book.
(Jeremy) Silk: Mars is in the constellation of Sagittarius during March/April
(SilkAway) But don't quote me
(Aaaaah) (test)
(SilkAway) well, there you go
(Jeremy) Silk: I know, and yes you got it
(Gelo) lucky guess Silk
(MB) Nancy, what do you expect when you post religious beliefs in a sci. group? Love?
(Jurian) lets call this #zetasoap, next week?
(SilkAway) lol lucky gues
(Sapphire) As the Zeta turns...
(SilkAway) thats funny
(Gelo) its not correct!
(Jurian) cause that's what its starting to look like, more and more, a SOAP SERIES
(NancyL) MB, CCD camera images are religious? Humm, wonder what church he goes to?
(SilkAway) Its not? Then where is it Gelo?
(S7L) Jurian: yes, good entertainment if you don't take it too seriously[tm].
(VadSzatir) Nancy what can you say about the child that are born with indigo aura???
(Earth420) This is not cool...
(SilkAway) Jeremy says Sagitarius also
(Obany) yeah Jurian i know your view on it...
(S7L) NancyL: the interpretation of pictures is religious
(Cybervviz) Nancy, why don't You channel once the version of the Nordics or Pleiedeans ? You can !
(StevenB) Woogles : I think a lot of us disagree what that. Mankind needs a lot of help not distruction.
(Jurian) the fighting after the session is getting more and more pathetic
(SilkAway) Nancy, so what about Saturn not visible?
(OceanTree) Couldn't be PX marked e.g. with a circle on the images?
(Cybervviz) That fwould be fair
(S7L) people have looked at the pics and said that what you point to is common image defects, available in any frame taken anywhere in the sky
(Sapphire) The fighting is the main attraction now, Jurian.
(SilkAway) Yep S, obvious defects
(NancyL) I'm bidding my goodby. Thank you all for attending and inspiring great ZT. Thanks to the loyal cops for putting up with the unruly mob.
(Jeremy) By the way folks, PX won't be easily confused with Mars from late March, since its in a different constellation, and by March only reaches magnitude 0.8
(Jurian) for grown-ups, we're ALL acting pretty damn pathetic
(Johnnie5) sheesh.
(NancyL) Bye bye!
(SilkAway) No answer Nancy?
(Ititj) gwirlo: And you out the negative challenge because you refuse to look at other sides.
Session Close: Sat Jan 04 17:35:53 2003