Session Start: Sat May 04 16:54:03 2002
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(gabe) for those interested, I highly recommend the following book: When Technology Fails: A Manual for Self-Reliance and Planetary Survival
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(NancyL) Just sent the Agenda to Jurian and Gerard, posted here now for the early birds too.
(NancyL) PLANE/TRAIN WRECKS & SAFETY
(NancyL) 1 Will air travel be possible in the few weeks before pole shift?
(NancyL) 2. I've been noticing alot of plane crashes. This was even before last September 11th. At the time I just dismissed it as being overly conscious of it but now it seems they are increasing in frequency and of course, people are flying into buildings.
(NancyL) WTC / PENTAGON COLLAPSE
(NancyL) 1. Did the buildings collapse due to the combustion of jet fuel weakening the steel floor joists (as claimed by investigators), or were explosives stategically placed and detonated to achieve the collapse.
(NancyL) 2. The pictures from the explosion after the aircraft that allegedly crashed into the Pentagon seem very strange, in that the ground floor was hit and exploded first, the upper floors collapsed later, there was no aircraft debris, no damages where the wings should have been etc. What was the real story behind the Pentagon explosion?
(NancyL) DISTANCE
(NancyL) 1. I still do not understand how exactly Planet X so far away should affect the Earth because we have much stronger influences nearby - Jupiter for a magnetic one, and Moon for gravity, for instance. How exactly does this all work out?
(NancyL) 2. How can a tiny body far away cause changes? What is the mechanism?
(NancyL) Someone sent me an e-mail saying that Yahoo would host the full 3 hours of the Mysteries of the Mind interview NOW, so all don't have to wait until next Wed to hear it from the MoM site.
(NancyL) But I didn't get a link to Yahoo, does anyone know if this is in place?
(Matt) Not yet
(Samsara2003) Don't tell me that someone set explosives on the WTC...
(NancyL) I put a note in my media page anyway, so anyone coming to get it will find that, I suppose.
(NancyL) Samsara, not according to ZT, no.
(Samsara2003) Ok... I'm still here then... :)
(Dethengor) Hehe
(Tizza) :)
(Jeremy) Nancy, is the coming 'shoe' dropping event related to 911?
(Zetapal) Hi guys
(NancyL) Jeremy, no, no 911 relationship to the "shoes" I'm expecting :-)
(Torbj) hi, Zetapalito1
(Jeremy) NancyL: Good... :)
(NancyL) Zetapal, one of your Q's got on the agenda. The Earth Twin thing is already answered in ZT.
(Samsara2003) Nancy: I'm wondering if the Zeta's specifically suscribe to the "Law of One" which I've been reading about extensively.
(Zetapal) Torbj Hows your stomach?
(DraganR) Nancy do you expecting something to happen in ROME- ITALY ??
(Torbj) Very good indeed!!
(DraganR) Something BIG
(Torbj) Thx for caring!
(Zetapal) Lol
(Samsara2003) Nancy: Remember my email on the Earth Twin---also validated in the RA material...
(NancyL) Samsara2003, they say it's genuine, but ALL channeled work can conflict with other valid work, for many reasons, so you must read with your feelings as much as anything, I suppose.
(Samsara2003) VERY obscure...
(CyberVVizz) Popie jopie shut himself to Moon
(NancyL) For ZetaPal et al, I'll post here, just a couple lines.
(Torbj) My stomach is doing alot of gardening these days.
(Tizza) Nancy : got anything to do with these Israelies wanting to start ww3?
(NancyL) From what Samsara2003 sent me:
I was shocked to read tonight in the book the RA material (isbn:0-89865-260-x), on page 117 it states during a channeling session:
Questioner: Is there a planet opposite our sun, in relation to us, that we do not know about?
RA: I am Ra. There is a sphere in the area opposite your sun of a very, very cold nature, but large enough to skew certain statistical figures. This sphere should not properly be called a planet as it is locked in first density.
(Samsara2003) I wonder where the author got the idea to ask this question...that's what I wonder...
(Torbj) Cyberwis...what do you mean by "the pope going to moon"?
(CyberVVizz) :-)) prediction
(S7L) Tizza: illogical. Why would Israelilans want to start third world war?
(Matt) Pope wants to go to Iraq!
(Tizza) Cause they're in Bush's palm and he wants distractions?
(NancyL) Tizza, I have a hunch that the Bush/Israel private lunches et all included an assurance by Bush that Sharon should do "whatever necessary" to go after terrorists and he'd look the other way.
(NancyL) Sharon is too arrogant, too sure, etc.
(CyberVVizz) True
(S7L) Tizza: oh, but isn't that a little big thing for a distraction?
(NancyL) Samsara2003, maybe the theory has been around for awhile, an Alternative 1, 2, 3 leak or somesuch.
(Wage) Butcher of Beruit, not a nice guy
(Tizza) I think it is a very dangerous game they r playing over there.
(CyberVVizz) I mean Pope shall swift to other soon
(Samsara2003) Maybe... haven't run across anything... and your zeta accuracy support is a little weak...
(Tizza) And you can't predict all outcomes... these things have a way of snowballing.
(Samsara2003) :(
(Torbj) Cyber.... I have made an "intro" thatīs going to be in a internetgame.....where the pope is going with a "ship" to an "incoming planet2"
(N) Can you predict a cropcircle location?
(Zetapal) That's interesting Nancy - corroborated/cross-referenced spiritual/channeled material is a potential reinforcer I think.
(CyberVVizz) :-) we share thoughts ! :-))
(Samsara2003) Mr... so-n-so said... blah blah blah... comeon...
(NancyL) To put the pole shift into perspective, the Z's have said that this will make the Arabs and Israelis forget about their little spats.
(Samsara2003) I can forgive that though...
(CyberVVizz) Stt, I am with a spirit here, doesn't desturb it Nancy?
(Zetax) Samsara2003: idea for earth twin on the opposite side of sun was in a sci fi move in early 70's
(Samsara2003) I've heard of that... probably not where the original idea came from though...
(NancyL) N, no predictions on crop circles. Not on sightings either.
(S7L) The earth's twin idea was conceived because of some gravitational perturbations observed on other planets, I think
(S7L) So it wasn't a full sci-fi idea back then.
(Aye) What do the zeta say about Mel Gibson's new film: signs
(NancyL) OK, we're on the hour, I think, so will start ...
(N) Put the Zeta's "cropcircles" on Apples??
(Samsara2003) Nancy: do the zetas have any thoughts on the upcoming Cropcircle movie called "Sign's" by Mel Gibson: http://us.imdb.com/Title?0286106?
(Torbj) Hehe...I can bring you some secīs of it if you wanr watch.
(NancyL) PLANE/TRAIN WRECKS & SAFETY
(NancyL) 1 Will air travel be possible in the few weeks before pole shift?
(NancyL) 2. I've been noticing alot of plane crashes. This was even before last September 11th. At the time I just dismissed it as being overly conscious of it but now it seems they are increasing in frequency and of course, people are flying into buildings.
(Gerard) Okay hush now folks session has started
(NancyL) ZT: In early 1995, when discussion of the coming pole shift began within ISCNI, the focus was on the shift itself and the new geography afterwards.
(Bluefox) If a man flaps his arms, air travel is definitely possible
(CyberVVizz) Sssht
(NancyL) ZT: As those who are planning a trip think of the beach, and what to wear, NOT of the fatigue during the road trip of flat tire that might occur.
(NancyL) ZT: As we have explained, the week of rotation stoppage does not arrive unannounced.
(NancyL) ZT: Earthquakes have been predicted by us to increase in frequency and strengh going into the shift itself, and this includes the present time, the year prior to the shift.
(NancyL) ZT: Weather irregularies will continue in the manner we have described since 1995, with increasing swings and extremes.
(NancyL) ZT: Crop shortages and difficulties in growing crops to marketability will likewise follow these weather extremes.
(NancyL) ZT: Struggling companies, worldwide, will find they must shrink or die and this activity affects the economy worldwide, with teterring economies collapsing in stages, as we have predicted.
(NancyL) ZT: But there are aspects of these predictions not detailed, which are coming apparent the year prior to the shift.
(NancyL) ZT: What are these aspects?
(NancyL) ZT: 1. Earth crust plates that are coming under increasing pressure will no longer react only with increased quakes, shaking and minor adjustments along the fault lines.
(NancyL) ZT: The plates will start to SHOW these signs of increased presure in their interior.
(NancyL) ZT: It was noted that black water appeared in the Carribean, which we described as dirt freed from overlapping rock layers recently disturbed.
(NancyL) ZT: Subsequent to this, a train wreck in Florida occured, just after the tracks were inspected, and the engineer reported seeing buckled tracks in front of him.
(NancyL) ZT: Why did the tracks buckle? The ground not only heaved, it moved sideways, or compressed, and this will not be the only occurrence of such a train wreck for similar reasons.
(NancyL) ZT: 2. Atmospheric disturbances, beyond those usually encountered and thus watched for by pilots, are occurring.
(NancyL) ZT: Even prior to the year before the shift, what is called micro-bursts were being increasingly reported and downed planes blamed on this.
(NancyL) ZT: If the weather is moving to extremes, this equates to hotter air masses, colder drafts, and sudden wind equalizing these air masses.
(NancyL) ZT: Beyond these problems, airplanes use satellites to guide them, magnetic orientation to guide them, and these likewise will either fail on occasion or given invalid readings.
(NancyL) ZT: 3. Where we have mentioned increasing illness, from known germs and also those unexpected which are appearing in new environments, this is taking mankind by shock when it does occur.
(NancyL) ZT: The fact that doctors are guessing MOST of the time when treating illness, and that this has been the case up until the present, is lost on the public as they have been lulled by the medical establishment into thinking a trip to the doctor will cure them.
(NancyL) ZT: Honest doctors admit they are guessing most of the time, trying things, and any confident air is a falsehood to get the patients to payup ahead of time.
(NancyL) ZT: Now that new illnesses, or familiar illnesses in strange places, are occurring, the public is agast, but this is in fact the status quo.
(NancyL) ZT: During the year prior to the shift, this will be in the news increasingly, an up tick from the present situation.
(NancyL) ZT: 4. The barter system will be utilized in the year prior to the shift, increasingly, even when the monitary system in a country is supposedly secure and stabilized.
(NancyL) ZT: The public, seeing how rapidly Argentina went into the toilet, and the glowing terms ascribed to the banking and Stock Markets of the world, are suspicious.
(NancyL) ZT: How many Enron's are out there? And knowing that the public will be the last to hear about a pending collapse, they are thinking how to survive, NOW, and not waiting for their leadership to shaft them.
(NancyL) End ZT Followup?
(Samsara2003) Any zeta predictions on U.S. climate conditions this summer - temperaturewise?
(Wage) How many "Enrons" are out there?
(Jeremy) Will bad weather likely cause flight cancellations in 2003?
(NancyL) ZT to Samsara2003: There are predictions, NOT by us, that 130 degree temps might be occurring.
(JoeyB) Are the elite contributing to our health problems to a significant degree?
(Samsara2003) United states?
(Samsara2003) By whom?
(NancyL) ZT: In that weather irregularies are smoothed, by nature, by increased atmospheric activity or ocean currents, such extremes will NOT occur.
(NancyL) ZT: Rather, ossilating extremes, similar to what the world has already experienced, will occur.
(Gerard) What about the countries that don't have fault lines will they alo expierence problems with the plates/ground?
(Samsara2003) Ok
(NancyL) ZT: Sudden shift to cold weather, sudden unseasonably warm weather, and the like.
(NancyL) End ZT to Samsara2003.
(NancyL) ZT to Wage: There are dozens of Enrons, many with far worse accounting and broader impact.
(Samsara2003) Is IBM a potential Enron?
(NancyL) ZT: In fact, our prediction on a Stock Market collapse, wherein the value of todays stock falls to 1/4 its current value, will be triggers in the main by revelations of this.
(Zetapal) Better sell it sam - lol
(Torbj) Ericsson is falling appart!
(DuncanC) NancyL: any Zeta comment on the lack of a visible object in the sky at their coordinates, as shown here: http://users.telerama.com/~rev/planetx/gif.htm
(Samsara2003) Any idea when this collapse might occur?
(NancyL) ZT: These situations have a tenuous hold, now, and could unravel based on any number of breaks in the dike.
(Gerard) Duncand: not related to this session ....
(Bob) Worldcom and Merrill Lynch have been in the news for this possibility
(Sirgrim) Any new word on the shoe dropping?
(DuncanC) ... important all the same
(NancyL) ZT: Once this process starts, there will be domino effects, with a rapid collapse of the markets and banks.
(NancyL) End ZT to Wage.
(CyberVVizz) Is gold an alternative (temporaly) ?
(Dethengor) Gold has no real value tho
(Dethengor) Can't eat it
(Torbj) You cant eat gold
(CyberVVizz) Yes you can :-)
(NancyL) ZT to Gerard (Gerard): Jeremy has reported that England is experiencing sink holes, an oddity for this land, recently.
(Torbj) Maybe build with it
(NancyL) ZT: Plates under pressure may or may not adjust according to their known or anticipated reactions.
(Jeremy) NancyL: Yes, crater formed in Blackheath Hill, SE London
(Wage) What events will indicate an incipient market collapse?
(NancyL) ZT: Mountain building can occur, in a small degree, and likewise sudden depression in areas that are subducting.
(NancyL) ZT: In every plate, there are areas where the layers of rock are crumbly, not solid, and when this crumbles, anything could happen on the surface, from a drop to a rise, inclusing shifts in the water table.
(Samsara2003) To ZT: Any comments on the effects of a poleshift on Milwauke, WI? (not mentioned specifically on their previous dialoge)
(Samsara2003) Milwaukee...(mispelled my own city's name)
(NancyL) ZT: To predict just what soft spot might adjust, or what fault line might lift, in the year prior to the shift is flirting with our guidelines from the Council of Worlds whicch forbid us to warm mankind of speicific, immediate, dangers such as quakes.
(NancyL) End ZT to Geard.
(NancyL) OK the hour moves along, onto Q2
(NancyL) WTC / PENTAGON COLLAPSE
(NancyL) 1. Did the buildings collapse due to the combustion of jet fuel weakening the steel floor joists (as claimed by investigators), or were explosives stategically placed and detonated to achieve the collapse.
(NancyL) 2. The pictures from the explosion after the aircraft that allegedly crashed into the Pentagon seem very strange, in that the ground floor was hit and exploded first, the upper floors collapsed later, there was no aircraft debris, no damages where the wings should have been etc
(NancyL) ZT: This was addressed during the interview but we will repeat.
(Thunderoc) "which forbid us to warn mankind" sounds like Enki's/Biblical flood warning as well?
(Okidok) Yes there where no flight in the offical video relation.
(NancyL) ZT: Akin to our prediction that plates will adjust to increasing pressure by interior, notjust fault line, changes, the ground under cities will experience these too.
(NancyL) ZT: Urban residents are lulled into thinking that they are safe, the gas lines capped and water lines tight, electric power trips to keep surges in line,
(NancyL) ZT: Millions go to work and fall asleep assured by their leaders that all is in hand, with rescue teams alert and at the ready.
(NancyL) ZT: In fact, the weak link is just waiting to break, from a source not anticipated by the city architects.
(NancyL) ZT: Water lines can snap when the pipping is put under pressure or stretched.
(NancyL) ZT: Gas lines certainly can experience cracks and snaps.
(NancyL) ZT: If electrical power lines, not as insulated as reported, and leaking gas, and water that conducts electricity, are put together, what do you have?
(NancyL) ZT: Building with heavy plumbing running up to all the toilets and showers have a sinkhole developing under them, they will implode.
(NancyL) ZT: Gas lines leaks set off in an explosion cause by adjustments under a city, will NOT just be limited to a building or block, but will ricochet through the city, creating a holocaut potentially.
(NancyL) ZT: Some of these potentially can make the WTC disaster look mild.
(Wage) Is this the reason for the exploding manhole covers in washington, DC?
(NancyL) ZT: Conspiracy theories have noted that during the WTC explosions occurred almost immediately in floors below the strick area, or in the case of the Pentagon, above.
(NancyL) ZT: The theory is floated that these plane strikes were assisted by insiders, wanting to create the climate that the Bush Administration has been all too happy to take advantage of.
(NancyL) ZT: Civil rights limited, the military beefed up, and not questions asked as its all National Security.
(Ultima) Hello nancy
(NancyL) ZT: A plane crashing into the side of a tall building does not just break windows, it creates a minor earthquake in the structure, snapping plumging, as well as rupturing the fuel tanks.
(Gerard) Ultima: session is busy started 38 minuts ago .. hush now :)
(Ultima) Sorry
(NancyL) ZT: Fuel dropping into a ventilation shaft, mixing with air, is an ideal explosive mix, and would drop DOWN into the shaft to the floors below.
(NancyL) ZT: This is what occurrd in the WTC.
(NancyL) ZT: Likewise, where a plane crashes into the lower floor of a building, such as the Pentagon, the fuel will not go DOWN, but spew upward along any avenu it has.
(NancyL) ZT: Stairwells, for instance, carry not only fuel but fumes, and mixing with the air and having an updraft handy, this is likewise the direction an explosion would take.
(NancyL) ZT: Thus, where those wanting to incite Marshal Law in the US with the OKC and TWA800 and Waco incidents did not succeed, they were handed an unexpected opportunity in the 911 events.
(NancyL) ZT: In that these NWO types seem delighted to take advantage of these opportunities, the public is rightfully suspicous, but 911 was NOT their plan in any manner or degree.
(NancyL) End ZT followup?
(Wage) Is everything then lined up for martial law?
(Jan) Why was there no plane debris found at the pentagon?
(N) Are cropcircles in the main orbit symbols? or chakra symbols or something else?? Has the Zeta's something to say more about it?
(Ultima) Nancy what is it like to meet zetas?
(Okidok) This Pentagon issue is scary if it is true
(Gerard) N: not related to this session
(Ultima) I have had encounters
(NancyL) ZT to Wage: Marshal Law requires a number of steps outside of what has occurred.
(Jan) And what about the damage that should have come from the wings?
(NancyL) ZT: The reaction of the US public to the restrictions that have been attempted have convinced the architects that full blown Marshall Law would be a mistake.
(NancyL) ZT: They will rather use the excuse of Homeland Security to the max, and watch the line so they do not cross it and reveal their true wishes.
(NancyL) ZT: The constant warning of terrorist acts about to happen are to keep this sense alive, even though most of these warnings are without basis.
(NancyL) End ZT to Wage.
(Matt) Doesn't really matter if they have only got 1 year till Px....
(Bluefox) Regarding the pentagon plane, perhaps it nose dived onto the building as apposed to slicing in from the side?
(NancyL) ZT to Jan: The Pentagon experienced severe fires, an inferno with no place to go.
(NancyL) ZT: The WTC fires had all four directions available to them, up, down, and sideways.
(Ultima) Yeah 1 year to PX arrival
(NancyL) ZT: The Pentagon had the fuel fix going UP, creating a heat barrier so the heat of the burning plane itself could not dissipate upward.
(Ultima) We must get ready
(Bluefox) Perhaps ZT is part of the conspiracy too :)
(Wage) If the WTC attack was intended to only destabilize a bank, then why did they also attack the pentagon?
(Samsara2003) I want to get to the Px question...
(NancyL) ZT: Like a blast furnace, encased, this creates super high heat, which melts many objects otherwise remaining in a fire.
(Torbj) Think of this.... itīs a fire within you.... you will colapse....
(NancyL) ZT: It is an untrue statement that there were NO plane remains, just not what was expected, and thus rumors abound.
(NancyL) End ZT to Jan.
(Jan) Thanks!
(Ultima) 1 year?
(Torbj) And then rise as newoners
(Torbj) Newones...
(Gerard) May 2002 May 2003 one year yes
(NancyL) Wage, no one said it was ONLY to attack a bank, etc.
(Ultima) Tell me are people due to evolve, more so without zetan contact?
(CyberVVizz) Blue marshmellows
(NancyL) I'm going to the last Q, left over from last week, as time is short.
(NancyL) DISTANCE
(NancyL) 1. I still do not understand how exactly Planet X so far away should affect the Earth because we have much stronger influences nearby - Jupiter for a magnetic one, and Moon for gravity, for instance. How exactly does this all work out?
(NancyL) 2. How can a tiny body far away cause changes? What is the mechanism?
(NancyL) ZT: We have explained on numerous occasions how equilibrium in a solar system works, but still this is confusing to our audience.
(Torbj) When you see a building collapse.... itīs you collapsing
(Gerard) Okay hush now question is being answered by the Zetas
(Torbj) If you see this collapse of the building as something new to be born....you are to be reborne!
(Ultima) Cona cheops lea
(NancyL) ZT: The existing structure is explained by mankinds scientists as coming out of the big bang, planets caught in a gravity field, on the move so not going directly into the sun, and thus estalishing an orbit.
(Gerard) Okay folks .. HUSH :)
(NancyL) ZT: Why all the planets are in the ecliptic, like the rings of trash around Saturn, is not explained.
(NancyL) ZT: How the Moon can remain aloft above Earth, while so massive and moving so slowly, is not addressed, even though this does not compute when Newton's law of Centrifugal force and the Inverse Square Law of gravity, both mankinds staples, are applied.
(NancyL) ZT: Mankind cannot explain how his own solar system is structures, but presumes to insist that centrifual force is what keeps everything in the place it is, when combined with gravity attraction.
(Ultima) How can one servive Nancy if he is service to other but has diabties is it not better to commit suicide then to live?
(NancyL) ZT: In this context, it is understandable that mankind is confused as to why a planet some 9 Sun-Pluto distances away can create a swirling core in the Earth when first starting out on its periodic passage through the solar system.
(NancyL) ZT: Gravity must be mild, as Jupiter does not seem to affect the Earth.
(NancyL) ZT: Magnetic confusion should be minimal, as Mercury is closer and seems to have no effect on Earth.
(NancyL) ZT: What is missing in these conclusions is the network that is in place, a STABILIZATION of all these pulls and pushes, which is not apparent to man as he is seeing the RESULT, not the arrival, of the stablilizing.
(Ultima) What will happen to the ones who are in serious need of medication, if they are lost then weeping is in my eyes on that fatefull night.
(Gerard) Ultima: not related see my query to you ...
(NancyL) ZT: Were everyone in a group to hold hands tighly, in a circle around a large air balloon, they would become fixed in place, unable to move unless a grip was let go.
(NancyL) ZT: A child, seeing this, would assume that this was "normal" and set about to play in the grass nearby.
(Ultima) Thank you
(NancyL) ZT: Should someone ask the child why these people were standing thus, he's be puzzled, not having noticed them, still as they were.
(NancyL) ZT: But should a grip let go, on the opposite side of the balloon, bodies might jerk, adjust, and the child startled.
(NancyL) ZT: He does not see the point where the grip released.
(Torbj) And the child would say..... they know....
(NancyL) ZT: Likewise, a decrease in pressure in the baloon would cause wiggling in the people thus circline, it, as now there was wiggle room where before they were stretched tight.
(Samsara2003) I don't understand that anology
(NancyL) ZT: The child would be alarmed! Why are these people shuffling their feet, moving their handshakes up and down! Perhaps turning their head to look his way!
(NancyL) ZT: Thus, like a child, not understanding that the solar system you are USED TO is the result of many factors FIXED, but now ADJUSTING, you see every change as a shock.
(NancyL) End ZT Followup?
(BrianC) Does this stabalizing occur as small movements inside the planets themselves?
(JubJub963) So, the z's are saying that it is a combo of gravity and magnetics upsetting the equilibrium?
(S7L) Actually, I asked why jupiter's strong magnetic field has no effect but Planet X's very distant one does.
(IMO) What you claim is said by "mankinds scientists" is simply not what we say. We don't say that about centrifugal force. That is not how we say planetary systems are formed. Jupiter does effect the Earth's orbit and we can measure that effect. Your childlike analogy makes no sense at all. As usual, you know nothing of science.
(S7L) The answer is 'some mystic equilibrium is being changed'.
(IMO) Meanwhile, go to the bottom of these pages to see clear proof that Nancy is wrong ... her predicted planet is not there.
(IMO) Dec 5: http://us.geocities.com/openmindxx/44minCCD.htm
(IMO) Jan 5 and 19: http://users.telerama.com/~rev/planetx/gif.htm
(NancyL) Once again, mankind described as children :-) but trying to give you the perspective of "not knowing", I guess :-)
(DuncanC) Zetas need to address the lack of any new object in CCD images...
(Ultima) The angels fleet their feet or they know of the time to come :(
(NancyL) ZT to BrianC: The disrupted equiplibrium affects literally millions of subatomic particles that mankind is not aware of.
(Jeremy) The ecliptic is taken for granted by astronomers, the ZTs are right about that
(Gerard) Okay this is not sci.astro so for that kind of discussion go over there please IMO, S7L, DuncanC
(NancyL) ZT: For us to give you an understanding would require that you be lectured on these, and Nancy would be in a state of exhuastion, and you would still not understand.
(NancyL) ZT: Thus, we decline to elaborate.
(DuncanC) Gerard: give me a break. This is all moot if there's nothing in the sky, am I wrong?
(NancyL) ZT to S7L: Jupiter does NOT have a strong magnetic field, it is a conduit.
(BrianC) Hahaha, of course, thanks though, so the particles and there flows.
(NancyL) ZT: This is explained in existing ZetaTalk on the Sun's magnetism.
(Ultima) I under stand this when one channels they loose large emounts of energy
(IMO) Bull .. Jupiter has the strongest field in the solar system.
(Ultima) Very quickly.
(S7L) Why does Jupiter then have this large bow shock as it creates its magnetosphere?
(S7L) Similar to Earth's, only vastly larger?
(NancyL) ZT: Earth and Mercury align with the Sun. Jupiter and Saturn, being gaseous planets, do NOT have their own magnetic field.
(Jeremy) Earth has strongest magnetic field of inner planets.
(CyberVVizz) Is this almost the same thing we known as the surface pressure in a glass of water, let floating a paper, or boat ? Every body makes a presure into the surrounding?
(Ultima) Bye nancy love unto all service to others
(NancyL) ZT: Their substance thus takes the flow of magnetic particles from the North Pole of the Sun around to the South Pole of the Sun, directly.
(Gerard) Well what do you think ... a nd once again this is not sci.astro. And it seems that some of them only join here go give negative comments all of the time ... and right now this is not the place for that.
(NancyL) ZT: Pluto, being solid and having a magnetic core, is attempting to align with the Sun, again, as Earth and Mercury do, from the periphery.
(NancyL) End ZT to S7L
(Wage) So the magnetic field is generated from our iron core, which Jupiter doesn' t have (being gaseous)?
(DuncanC) NancyL: why not just ask the Zetas why there's nothing visible in the CCD images taken?
(IMO) Jupiter's core is metalic hydrogen.
(S7L) I thank you, but I do disagree. How do you explain the great magnetosphere unless by virtue of a real, actual magnetic field?
(Gerard) DuncanC: and why don't you go back to sci.astro ... ?
(NancyL) To see clear proof that IMO is wrong, see ../usenet/use90446.htm
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(RobH) How are you so SURE of these things IMO? Have we sampled the core yet? I think NOT!
(DuncanC) Gerard: I'm not here to bash anyone, Nancy's been more than helpful and has my deep respect. However, I do my own investigations, and in them I find nothing new in the sky, hence my curiosity.
(IMO) Gerard: Nancy started the science talk, not us.
(S7L) In fact, I'm responsible; it's my question.
(S7L) I thank for the answer but cuoldn't be enlightened by it.
(NancyL) I think this stuff about Sun's magnetism is a link from the ZetaTalk Accuracy TOPIC. Anyway, its in Science.
(Torbj) Your curiosity is bringing you here
(JubJub963) Why do the z's insist clear proof, when the pictures are still unclear, I'm just saying ..
(Torbj) Duncan
(DuncanC) To see clear proof that there does not appear to be a new object, see http://users.telerama.com/~rev/planetx/gif.htm
(Gerard) I know that S7L.. and I know how you think about zetatalk since some time ... so :)
(DuncanC) Torbj: yes, this is true.
(NancyL) S7L, the Sun is aligned with even greater forces outside the solar system.
(S7L) NancyL: mm, possible.
(NancyL) Mankind, dunces that we are, think this is a limited scope, etc.
(S7L) What forces would these be?
(DuncanC) Honestly I thought I had seen everything until I found ZT
(NancyL) Well folks, having started this fist fight in the group, I'm going to ditch out and have supper.
(S7L) Gerard: I'm trying to get a clarification on these science issues but it's like trying to sieve fog
(DuncanC) So much, and so accurate, so intuitive.. but there's nothing new in the sky, and this is what N doesn't address...
(S7L) But I thank you, Nancy, for the time. Good night/day and all.
(CyberVVizz) Well sorry, I am not for Zetatlk, but the space equibilirum is true.
(Dethengor) Night nancy, thank you
(RobH) Enjoy your dinner :)
(BrianC) Nancy, although I wouldn't mind a small Zeta-Lecture, expecially on their mathematics nevermind science. :-)
(Torbj) What are you eating today Nancy
(DuncanC) Nancy, again why not ask the zetas why there does not appear to be anything new where you have circled...
(NancyL) Thank you all for inspiring great ZT, and don't forget to check in for the FULL 3 hour interview with Mysteries of the Mind next Wednesday, 5/9, when it will be replayed.
(NancyL) Shrimp salad.
(Gerard) Bye Nancy an thanks to the Zetas for the answer
Session Close: Sat May 04 18:16:27 2002