Live ZetaTalk Chat on Nov 24, 2001

Session Start: Sat Nov 24 15:51:12 2001
(NancyL) Last time we had an impromptu question which I and the Zetas addressed, but the new policy will be to ignore all questions outside of the agenda, as this is bypassing the process and unfair to others.
(NancyL) You must submit the questions to me on e-mail, and they either get accepted or rejected, or answered via personal e-mail.
(NancyL) Announcement to make. Couple years ago I put my script, The Passage, into a short story suitable for a magazine series too, and copyrighted it.
(NancyL) Was waiting, but now that the time is close, I made it available as a PDF and also text, zipped, link off my home page.
(NancyL) It answers, in story form, some of the questions that are coming up. A 50 page, 8 1/2 * 11, read.
(NancyL) OK, Going to start now. I posted the Agenda, but will repost as we go along.
(NancyL) TELEPATHY
(NancyL) 1. Can the Zetas track an individual questioner, his/her thoughts also, from the question, or just the thoughts of Nancy?
(NancyL) 2 Are the Zetas always avalable telepatically to their Emissary, can they be reached at any time to her?
(NancyL) 3. Do THEY really select the questions to be answered or Nancy does that?
(NancyL) ZT: Telepathy is both specific and general.
(NancyL) ZT: As someone who has telepathic ability can tell you, it can also be voluntary or visited upon one.
(NancyL) ZT: We will use the analogy of a radio, which can be tuned to various radio frequencies or turned off entirely.
(NancyL) ZT: A radio also requires a broadcasting station, from which many radios as receivers can listen.
(NancyL) ZT: Radio waves go long distances, as do the brain waves responsible for what humans call telepathy.
(NancyL) ZT: If someone with telepathy ability can receive, theoretically, from ALL broadcasting brains, how to the receiving brain sort it all out, and not get overwhelmed?
(NancyL) ZT: The receiving brains are in essence busy with their own business, so the incoming is treated as noise in the main.
(NancyL) ZT: Where the incoming strikes a cord with the receiving brain, such as a familiar scene or mutual concerns, the receiving brain may decide to listen.
(NancyL) ZT: When this occurs, it is as though the dial on the radio were being turned, and the volumn turned up likewise.
(NancyL) ZT: The receiver concentrates on the inbound signals, not allowing itself to be distracted by internal concerns of the self.
(NancyL) ZT: Thus, a telepathic person in listening mode may seem distracted, though other functions can proceed.
(NancyL) ZT: In tune with the inbound message, the receiver's heart will beat in tune with the sender, and their brain be activated in similar places, so they are acting as much as possible as a SINGLE BRAIN.
(NancyL) ZT: During these modes, it is possible for the receiver to start sending, as they are in sync, on the same wave length, so to speak.
(NancyL) ZT: Thus, to answer the question, we are in tune with ALL present at this IRC session, your thoughts, as well as Nancy.
(NancyL) ZT: Likewise, Nancy has to do no more than THINK a request for a conference and one is in process, as both of us can converse while doing our normal daily tasks.
(NancyL) ZT: There is no need for a physical proximity, only a syncing of the thoughts.
(NancyL) ZT: In that there is this merging, how can the public be sure it is not NANCY rather than ourselves, who are answering?
(NancyL) ZT: We step back during NancyTalk, and she gives us this stage during ZetaTalk, but in between she and we converse with the normal open discourse we are very accustomed to.
(NancyL) ZT: Nancy is not shy, nor are we, and we both are comfortable with blunt talk. So when we say we are reporting ZetaTalk to you, this is EXACTLY what it is.
(NancyL) ZT: And this is why she will sometimes correct, having put forth a word or phrase that does not carry our intent, as we OBJECT, when this occurs.
(NancyL) ZT: We act as a team, with both members having their identity, but the overall goal a shared one.
(NancyL) ZT End
(NancyL) Followup questions on this topic?
(S7L) No question. I think ZetaTalk is a very witty name, my compliments.
(Longint) No questions, thank you.
(DavidS) How to increase telepathy levels - I know meditation, trance-techniques, shamanic journeys? Other methods?
(DavidS) Other methods beside well-known methods?
(NancyL) ZT: In general, and to a high degree, telepathy is something your DNA supports.
(NancyL) ZT: However, holding your breath, to increase Carbon Dioxide levels, helps, which is why the Hindus prefer mountain tops for meditation.
(NancyL) ZT: Likewise, learning to trust your senses, if you THINK you are in contact, rather than reject them as silly thoughts, can help you make full use of what ability you have.
(NancyL) ZT: Practice with some friends, and compare what you received with what they have sent or written down, to gain confidence.
(NancyL) ZT: Be aware that only a small segment of humankind can utilize telepathy to any degree. A small percentage of the population HAS an occasional telepathic experience, rare, sometimes once in a lifetime.
(NancyL) ZT: Of this small percentage, a smaller yet percentage, perhaps only 2% of the whole population, have any ability that they can muster at will.
(NancyL) ZT End
(S7L) Follow-up question: why is depleting brain from oxygen, or increasing CO2 content, useful to increasing telepathic ability?
(NancyL) ZT: It suppresses interference, noise, from other body and brain functions. The body/brain is in essence drugged.
(NancyL) ZT End
(S7L) Ok.
(Jurian) Is it true that telepathy occurs, easier, in twins, or mother/child relations?
(Canuck) Is this why sleep apnea causes vivid dreams/visualization?
(NancyL) ZT: In that they share DNA, share brain wave hardware, so to speak, family connections are the most common.
(NancyL) ZT: Twins and family also share experiences, which also increases occurrences.
(Jurian) Cool, thanks :-)
(NancyL) ZT: Telepathy also occurs during sleep, HIGHLY common, which is why many humans conclude they have prophectic DREAMS.
(NancyL) ZT: They are merely reaching out, during sleep, when they are breathing slowly and not highly oxygenated, and chatting with others who have knowledge.
(NancyL) ZT: Prophecy is often simply a logical guess, based on many facts not generally known to the public.
(NancyL) ZT: The prophet may be simply putting together information gained from many others, and arriving at the logical conclusion!
(NancyL) ZT End
(NancyL) AFTERTIME Gloom
(NancyL) 1. How soon after the shift will the overcast dust/clouds and rains begin?
(NancyL) ZT: During the hour of the shift, all volcanoes active now or dormant now will explode.
(NancyL) ZT: Likewise, during this hour, hurricane force winds will wip over the oceans.
(NancyL) ZT: Due to this interaction, the gloom and humidity are present almost immediately after the shift.
(NancyL) ZT: Disbursement, so that this is evenly spread, occurs over the next few days, within a week, but the effect is virtually immediate on vegetation requiring sunlight and a dry bed.
(NancyL) ZT End
(NancyL) Followup questions?
(Jurian) None here
(NancyL) AFTERTIME Energy
(NancyL) 1. What energy sources will be available after the shift? Oil and gas will burn up, so should coal be used?
(NancyL) 2. The Zetas said new energy sources, which are hidden away from people now, or not yet fully explored, will be available after the pole shift. How will these be made available?
(NancyL) 3. Will industrialized countries be back in the 19th century?
(NancyL) 4. What do the Zetas advise, where to start recovering, how can we get to electric power the fastest way in the Aftertime?
(NancyL) ZT: Industrialized countries, used to many electrical applicances and vehicles to take them anywhere they desire, will be distressed after the shift due to what they will term a setback.
(NancyL) ZT: This is to say, they will feel they have lost over a century of progress, no longer having their labor saving devices, their conveniences, or their toys.
(NancyL) ZT: This does not affect their ability to LIVE, except in those cases where life is being maintained with artificial supports, such as breathing machines or kidney dialysis.
(NancyL) ZT: A century ago, industrialized countries were much as Third World countries today, most of the population busy growing or gathering food, with a few in the trades or professions.
(NancyL) ZT: Energy was secured from burning wood, coal, and oils from animals or vegetation, or falling water or the blowing wind.
(NancyL) ZT: Expectations were LOW, so live was not unbearable due to acute frustration.
(NancyL) ZT: After the shift, acute frustration among those who have lived a soft life while merrily polluting the globe, will be short lived.
(NancyL) ZT: They will either learn to live with the situation, or blow a fuse, or be put out of their misery by others around them tired of hearing the whining.
(NancyL) ZT: We have stated that Service-to-Other groups, where isolated from the possibility of takeover by Service-to-Self groups, will receive technology assistance from ourselves and other visitors participating in the Transformation.
(NancyL) ZT: How can a surviving group, intent on being Service-to-Other and perhaps functioning in the main in that orientation, link up with this?
(NancyL) ZT: 1. If a group has as their mission to assist the general population, saving whom they can from the devastated cities, or working in camps that the rich may put up to garner slaves, this technology will not be provided.
(NancyL) ZT: Where this might seem cruel or insensitive, this does NOT assist the Transformation, but becomes a slow death for the turnover of the planet to those in the Service-to-Others.
(NancyL) ZT: Ultimately, MORE pain and suffering result, as those in the Service-to-Self would use ANY technology to the worse ends.
(NancyL) ZT: 2. If a group is living in an area which in general is Service-to-Other, or isolated by natural barrier such as water or mountains or deserts such that travel TO the local is limited or virtually impossible by migrating survivors, they are highly likely to be guided to where and when they can receive assistance.
(NancyL) ZT: They should listen to their inner voice, their subconscious, and FOLLOW this, when unlikely suggestions are received.
(NancyL) ZT: Be open to change, as moving the group may be required.
(NancyL) ZT: 3. If a group is open to communication with aliens, visitors from other worlds, and hybrids, and would not experience high anxiety, they are likewise more likely to receive interaction.
(NancyL) ZT: It is possible to simply find a black box battery, unopenably, on your door step, without this open attitude.
(NancyL) ZT: However, no technology will be given if anxiety and fear will be greatly increased by this, so having an open heart and mind, not being fearful, is likewise key.
(NancyL) ZT: 4. Our technology to assist power needs will likely be in the form of a battery. Thus, where a group has all BUT the power input, this can be hooked up and away they go, off and running.
(NancyL) ZT: Thus, you should concentrate MOST on a setup that could run from a strong battery bank, and worry less about the lack of input when you are off the grid.
(NancyL) ZT: This is not to say that you should not be concerned about putting up a windmill or water wheel, as you may in fact have to operate with that setup, perhaps for the rest of your life.
(NancyL) ZT: This is to say that the technology piece we would be providing would be an perpetual battery pack, so plan to plug into this, when the time comes.
(NancyL) ZT End.
(NancyL) Followup questions?
(Jurian) Yes,
(Jurian) Would such an energy pack be 'strong' enough to power an entire community, or would it still be quite limited in what it can do?
(NancyL) ZT: Assume each battery to be equivalent to what you use in a car or golf cart or other such portable battery.
(NancyL) ZT: By this we mean that it would put OUT the power you assume now from your fresh car or cart or boat battery, no more no less.
(NancyL) ZT: It simply will not run out, or need maintenace.
(NancyL) ZT: We have adjusted our devices such that MOST groups can utilize them directly.
(Jurian) Right, so, they'll be, say, something like 12Volt DC?
(NancyL) ZT: Should they be like high voltage grids, few would be able to use them, and they might cause serious injury.
(NancyL) ZT: Thus, to plug into your most likely survival group technology, we have structured our gifts in this way.
(NancyL) ZT: There is another reason for NOT providing intense energy in a single box.
(NancyL) ZT: Should the unlikely event happen, against all precautions, that a Service-to-Self use be made of these battery packs, the result is not as devastating.
(NancyL) ZT End
(Jurian) Thanks, perfect answer :-)
(NancyL) AFTERTIME Barter System
(NancyL) 1. Will we still use symbols (gold, money) to represent and amass wealth?
(Zunisunface) What is the energy source of these batteries?
(NancyL) ZT: Just HOW these batteries work is not for you to know.
(NancyL) ZT End
(Jonnie) Do you have any insight into the nature of rods?
(NancyL) ZT: We predict that long before the shift, a barter system will be replacing the current paper money system.
(GerardZ) Jonnnie: questions that are not on the agenda won't get anwered, follow up questions might.
(NancyL) ZT: The value of the dollar, in ALL countries, will be falling, such that in any transaction one or both parties will feel they are getting a fair deal ONLY if a THING, not a representation, is given or received.
(NancyL) ZT: This is a common practice in countries where the dollar is falling, and a natural migration as the thought occurs readily to mankind, the barter system being recent in their cultural evolution.
(NancyL) ZT: What will this mean for the common man, and what will it mean for the rich?
(NancyL) ZT: The common man will find they are pleased with themselves if they have had the foresight to secure goods of value, such as seeds or tools or dried food.
(NancyL) ZT: The value of applicanes that are dead and not able to run, even of cars unable to run over broken roads, will be zero.
(NancyL) ZT: The value of items that can INCREASE worth, such as a needle and thread which can repair clothing otherwise worthless, or a shovel that can create a garden otherwise a weed patch, will BALOON.
(NancyL) ZT: The rich will of course whine endlessly, and try to convince anyone who will listen that their goods will RETURN in value, which it will not.
(NancyL) ZT: We advise the common man, as we have in the past, to relieve themselves of stock and jewels and paper money that will fall in value, perhaps suddenly and without warning.
(Zunisunface) What skills would you recommend that we learn that will help ourselves and others in these future times?
(NancyL) ZT: Better to stock up on things that will have value, candles and matches, school books and a guitar, than what the rich treasure.
(NancyL) ZT End
(S7L) Follow-up question: should we buy with our savings NOW?
(NancyL) Followup questions?
(Shiznaught) When do you expect the value of paper money to fall?
(PS2003) Can you tell us what to expect from Bush and other NWO types?
(NancyL) ZT: In that one's skill sets can be considered a bartering item, one should examine their own skill set by the following exam.
(S7L) Zunisun, Ps2003: please, only questions in the agenda.
(NancyL) ZT: If you were in the middle of a wilderness, ALONE, what steps would you take to survive?
(NancyL) ZT: What is the FIRST skill that you would need, and not have? Whom do you know that you would wish about you, in such as circumstance? What is that skill that they possess, that you perhaps could develop?
(NancyL) ZT: Imagine a group in such a setting, having arrived at a land dump where various pieces of junk are about and could provide mechanical devices or shelter, if ultilized creatively and resourcefully.
(NancyL) ZT: How would YOU go about creating a comfortable home for yourself, and others, in such as situation?
(Justaguy) Will tents provide adequate shelter?
(NancyL) ZT: If you are clueless on how to use junk to structure a home, recycle and hook up, then perhaps you should work with a junk man, in his yard, and take lessons!
(Jurian) Justaguy: please only ask questions that are on the agenda, or that relate to answers given to those questions..
(GerardZ) Justaguy: the answer isn't finished yet, wait until it's finished
(NancyL) ZT: What we are telling you is that you should mentally put yourself in this setting, and you will have no difficulty determining what is useless or most worthwile, in a skill set.
(NancyL) ZT End
(DavidS) When will the moneyvalue all over the world be zero aftertime?
(Zunisunface) Won't skills/services become a part of the barter system?
(NancyL) ZT: Moneies will be used as a medium of exchange, as will jewels and art, in some settings, for a brief period of time.
(NancyL) ZT: This will occur until those being offered these at bargain prices realize the shift has happened WORLDWIDE, and rescue and a return to civilization as they knew it will not occur.
(NancyL) ZT: Perhaps months, but more likely weeks, and only in limited settings.
(NancyL) ZT End
(NancyL) ZT: Skills and services ARE a barterable item, but only if of worth as we have described.
(DavidS) Thanx..I do not like money system as it today - nice to hear:-)
(NancyL) ZT: If you are an accountant, and cannot translate this skill into becoming a tailor or herdsman or cook, your skill us useless!
(NancyL) ZT End
(NancyL) GOVERNMENT Martial Law
(NancyL) 1. What countries are planning Martial Law at this time?
(NancyL) 2. Why are there so many militia information sources negative about the NWO?
(NancyL) ZT: Martial Law is a device that cuts both ways, so will not be used lightly by those in power, and only if they feel they have no other recourse.
(NancyL) ZT: The threat of Martial Law is tossed about a great deal, as it seems an obvious trend given the nervousness of governments and the power they hold in wielding their military.
(NancyL) ZT: But this conclusion assumes the status quo to be continuing. In other words, adequate food for the troops, and stability elsewhere.
(NancyL) ZT: Martial Law can be quickly wielded to quell a riot, or quarantine disease, and is accepted by the populace.
(NancyL) ZT: In these cases, the troops consider that their OWN families are being protected by these acts, and go along with the orders.
(NancyL) ZT: The riot is being prevented from spreading to family and friends, or at least the soldier comforts himself that should such a riot spring up in his neighborhood, the same means of quelling it would be used.
(NancyL) ZT: What would the attitude of the soldier be, if starvation were rampant, news of this coming from home, and the soldier asked to protect the rich and powerful from demands from the starving?
(NancyL) ZT: The willingness of the soldier to go along with this erodes, rapidly. Especially if it is apparent that the government, the elite, have NOT been open and honest about what is besetting mankind.
(NancyL) ZT: Desertions would occur, erosion of the troops such that the generals soon find they have left their posts, leaving the defenses vulnerable.
(NancyL) ZT: The military knows this, discusses this, endlessly. They have great history to examine.
(NancyL) ZT: The common phrase that an army marches on its stomach is a clue. This is kNOWN. One cannot fight an effective battle unless the troops are heartened, and feel that there is a general advantage to continuing.
(NancyL) ZT: Only groups of thugs operate solely for themselves, and these are not what the military accepts in its ranks.
(NancyL) ZT: Thus, Martial Law will be utilized only as a last resort, often dropped as soon as possible thereafter, and we anticipate only in those countries where the rich strong-arm the poor TODAY.
(NancyL) ZT: In those countries, this will be no change from their status quo, in essence no Martial Law being enforced.
(NancyL) ZT: We anticipate, rather than a Martial Law setup, that troops will be sent home just ahead of the shift, to be with their families.
(NancyL) ZT: In this way, they will be disbanded, less of a threat, and more likely to assist their families than run as gangs.
(NancyL) ZT: We anticipate that the rich and powerful will go into enclaves, with immense stores of goods, with armed guards often gathered from the miliary.
(NancyL) ZT: These will not prove to be a good setting, however, and will become the worst hell for those expecting to be protected and live well behind locked doors.
(NancyL) ZT: Thus, Martial Law will become a reality ONLY for those rich enclaves, where the strongest and most ruthless will rule.
(NancyL) ZT End
(NancyL) Followup questions?
(S7L) I did not see the question number 2 addressed
(S7L) Why are so many militia sources negative about NWO, if I remember.
(S7L) Will it follow next? If so, my apologies
(NancyL) 2 was addressed in that they said NWO conspiracy is considered ONLY in the context of status quo being same elsewhere.
(DavidS) Militia sources (Nazi-sources)
(NancyL) In other words, food is available, the soldiers family will be safe, etc.
(S7L) Okay. Understood.
(DavidS) I meant why.
(DavidS) Militia sources (Nazi-sources)
(NancyL) The conspiracy groups are not dealing with the FULL WOLRD reality, when they watch Martial Law organizers.
(NancyL) So, their fears are groundless.
(DavidS) Why so similar info from Nazi-sources about NWO and such?
(DavidS) Many debunkers/skeptics of UFO say that NWO is created from Nazism?
(NancyL) David, are you saying that Nazi=NWO in many people's minds?
(DavidS) Yeah - if you and I are open to.
(NancyL) Oh, without going into ZT, the CIA for instance WAS created in the main from the SS! This is fact.
(DavidS) NWO - then we are Nazi
(DavidS) Kind of Nazi-believer
(NancyL) ZT: Also, look what the CIA did in Argentina, and with being in bed with Pinochet and tipping over a democracy.
(NancyL) Argentine was a former Nazi home, etc.
(NancyL) So, they see groups/trends, and are not WRONG.
(NancyL) ZT: The Bush family, don't get me started! These are facts well known.
(NancyL) But they won't win, they will die together, creating a cesspool of poison, deserving each other I might add.
(NancyL) Just don't be anywhere near their enclaves!
(Jurian) Hmm, will it be well known where these enclaves are?
(NancyL) I don't think we can get to the last group of questions, about spin and earth core and the like. This will be migrated forward for another day.
(NancyL) Jurian, the Internet is a great source of info on that. North Carolina, where army trucks are seen going, etc.
(Zunisunface) I have always been anti-guns, but should I now be learning how to shoot if there will be martial law?
(NancyL) I'm not sure of other countries, but the rumor mill is alive and well! Ural mountains in Russia I think.
(Jurian) NancyL: So, most, if not all, will be in the US?
(Jurian) And russia, obviously :)
(NancyL) I think we should close, at least I'm leaving. Jurian, enclaveas probably in all contries, for their rich, etc.
(DavidS) Nancy:what do you meant by "the Bush family, dont get me started. These are facts well known"?
(NancyL) Y'all can continue. Thanks for inspiring great ZT!
(S7L) I thank you, Nancy, for this time.
(Jurian) Right, time to do some searching.. :-)
(S7L) It was a great pleasure.
(Zunisunface) Thanks nancy
(Canuck) Thank you very much Nancy, Zetas
(Longint) Thank you very much, Nancy
(Jurian) Thanks for the answers! Very good session today :-)
(Breeze) Thanks, very informative
(NancyL) David, put Bush in a search engine and you'll find it. I think Bush Watch site would do :-)
(NancyL) Bye guys!
(Holger) Anybody noted, that the 2003-PS-topic itself is one of the aims of NWO? "The great purification of the earth from unnecessary eaters."
(Supervizor) Thanx Nancy :)
Session Close: Sat Nov 24 17:27:52 2001