Feet to the Fire
May 22, 2005
The complete interview is available on the Feet to the Fire web sitein the archives.
The first half of the Interview was discussing the content of the web page prepared for the show, content at the link F2F
This is a long interview, on more than one web page, continuing links to next page at bottom.

JIM: You're free to speak my mind, my friend, as long as you agree with me. That's what we try not to do here on Feet to the Fire. We try to say, look, as long as you can have a cordial discourse, we can talk and we can kick around stuff, that's part of the deal. Feet to the Fire is reserved for the arrogant person who thinks they can steam roller their propaganda. That does not describe our next guest. Nancy Lieder has been on several times. Most people know the name Nancy Lieder and know that she deals with the Zeta and their help, information on upcoming changes. Her website, ZetaTalk, is hit many many many times. She's put together a special page for this show. And if you go to ZetaTalk, there's an F2F button you can hit it. Or of course we have it on our web site for this week's show. And let's bring on Nancy Lieder. Welcome Nancy!

NANCY: I'm so thrilled to be back. And we're going to start, my understanding is that you've had a lot of email asking about an update on Planet X. It's been a year since I've been on, so a year in review. What's new in past year. For those people who are not aware of what Planet X is, it's a rogue planet that is mentioned in prophecy a lot - the Bible, the Quoran, native prophecies like the Aboriginals in Australia , the Hopi, the Ethiopian natives, Mother Shipton, lots of prophecy about this. A rogue planet also known as Nibiru, Marduk, the 12th Planet if you're into Sitchin's, Zacharia Sitchin's books. It has a sling orbit, it flies through our solar system in what would be called a hyperbolic comet orbit. It goes through and then turns around and comes zinging back. So it only comes through actually every 3, 657 years to the extent that it impacts Planet Earth. It roars in toward the Sun, but then because of an anti-gravity force when large bodies get too close, it comes to almost a screeching halt and creeps past the Sun and then takes off on the other side. We're into that pre-takeoff position.

What this means for the Earth, and according to the Zetas whom I act as an emissary for, and give their information out my the web site, the Earth was putzing around in its orbit December of 2003 and encountered this bugger very close to the Sun. And due to the press of all the particle flows, not just gravity and magnetism, but those other 9,999 particles that we're not even aware of that flow into the Sun and out of the Sun and around and around. There's a lot going on that we don't understand, like why is it all our planets are out around the Sun's middle like the rings of Saturn. We have never had an, an going in the same direction all the time.Man has not given an explanation for this, although the Zetas have tried to explain it for us. But it's particle flows, and we're caught in an eddy flow. We're not moving around in our orbit, but we're rotating round for day and night. And the reason we seem to have our seasons is because benign aliens are tipping our globe so the North Pole moves toward the Sun and then it tipping away for Winter in the northern hemisphere so that we don't freeze or fry. And also so we don't panic. It's called apparent precision. But this is apparent if you watch where the Sun comes up and goes down, and where the constellations are in particular. You can tell that we are not moving out of the December position but are being tipped.

What other evidence do we have that Planet X is in our solar system. Well, it shows up on photos. On this web page that I've prepared for Feet to the Fire tonight, should you go to my website, I'm showing MLSO, which is a photo of the Sun taken from an Earth observatory. They block out the Sun but you can see what's around it, and an amateur photograph, taken by an amateur astronomer in Italy. Very close dates, August 21 and August 24, 2004 showing the same debris in the tail of, moon swirls we call them. This planet has many, dozens of moons, that don't go round and round it because it travels, but swirl around each other in kind of a cone like swirl and never do get into a round and round orbit like our moon. And on occasion when they're focused down that tube, down that cone, they funnel sunlight and they show up as an orb. Remarkable similarities from an observatory in the US, I believe it's maybe was Hawaii, and Italy, in photography.

It also shows up on SWAN. Now SWAN is a SOHO product. They take a backlit image of the sky behind the Sun in infrared and ultraviolet, it's not infrared which is close to ultraviolet, they're both in the invisible red spectrum for man's eyes, and there it is! Now why would it show up in a backlit, behind the Sun, and not to our eyes? It's surrounded by dust, red iron oxide dust, which is why, when it comes through, as Revelations predicts, the rivers run red, blood red, and during the Jewish Exodus, which was it's last passage, some 1,600 years before the birth of Christ, they talked about the rivers running blood red, the Red Sea, for instance. And because it's shrouded by this dust cloud, highly magnetized red iron oxide dust, it's a big magnet, this planet is 4 times the diameter of Earth and 23 times the mass, so it holds this dust. It's like looking at a fog bank, for us. The light of the Sun bounces at the back side of it, back toward the Sun, and goes behind the Sun to be backlit. So I have examples of how it shows up on SWAN, which is a picture the cloud, the sky, behind the Sun. And this is not from the Sun. Why is that? Because the Sun rotates every 4 weeks. And I have a 4 week period showing this bright spot in the same place during the 4 week period.

OK, what else shows up? We're in a wobble, because this big magnet that's creeping toward us, not quite at Venus' orbit, midway, or not quite between us and the Sun, it pulls on the Atlantic Rift, which is a highly magnetized portion of hardened lava on our Earth. It's where it has ripped, lava has hardened suddenly, and it literally forms a magnet on our crust. And when this comes around, this magnet, which is Planet X, grabs that Atlantic Rift, particularly in the Southern part, because it's a little bit below the Sun at the current time, or below the Sun's middle, and holds onto it. And when the Atlantic Rift is on the other side, it's saying 'hold still, I want you to be aligned with me'. It's known as the face and dark points. Since March of 2003 we've had periodic global shuddering, that shows up on the USGS live seismographs. And I have a great record of this. They don't have an archive, but I save this stuff off. And it happens at the face and the dark side.

There's more indications. The North Pole, which is not quite at our geographic North Pole, but a little more over into towards Alaska and northern Canada, is pushed away when it presents itself on the crust, and allowed to spring back when it's on the other side of the globe. This can literally be seen on weather maps, and I have examples of this. There's an odd warn spot over the Urals where there shouldn't be, in the Fall of this last year, and an odd cold spot where there shouldn't be NW of Hudson Bay.

And also, something that our Zetas have called an Earth torque. They have stated because the Southern portion of the Atlantic Rift is so attractive to Planet X, and it grabs it and holds it, hold it back, and the rotation wants to continue to go counterclockwise, you know, left to right, this eases the pressure on the North American Continent and creates a lot of pressure down near New Zealand, like as though you were opening a jar of pickels. Holding the jar with your right hand and pulling to the left, and jerking [the lid] of the jar to the right. The top of the jar being the North Pole, the bottom of the jar being the South Pole. And what you have is so much pressure put on the point New Zealand and around by Sumatra which is where we had the plates rupture Dec 26, 2004, the great tsunami quake. I have a weathermap on this page I've prepared, that shows, it's actually a USGS chart that shows quakes happening all around the Ring of Fire except the West Coast of the United States, which is literally free of quakes right after that tsunami. And this has continued. We've been following this on a monthly basis. The reason for this is, the North American plate has tension eased along the West Coast, where around New Zealand and the Sumatra area there's pressure. The plates are literally being torn apart by this torquing action, which shows up on USGS maps.

Let's see now, what else have we got for you. Another proof of our orbits having stopped besides our constellations being out of place and the Sun arc being too high in the sky during the Summer in the Northern Hemisphere, all of which is well of record and documented carefully on my home page in those links just under the ZetaTalk banner called Orbits and Sweeps and Global Quakes. Click around in there and see. Earth has a dark twin, something that has long been rumored, that NASA knew about, something on the opposite side of Earth in its orbit, like two marbles going round and around a ring and staying exactly opposite each other from the central point. And when we stopped in our orbit, this other dark twin, which does not have life or water, it's black, reflects very little light, some blue and yellow only, comes trucking around behind us and halted in our orbit, because large gravitational bodies do not bang into each other because there is an anti-gravity force when they get close to each other. It showed up, in January of 2004, in photos, and again on May 24, a lovely catch. Along with many verbal reports, people saying that they saw it just after sunset or around that time, and identical reports to what showed up on photos. So now that it is close to us we're not seeing it because the light from the Sun is bouncing directly back toward the Sun. But at that time when it was first emerging and it was almost opposite us, behind the Sun, we got this reflected image of it.

Now another one is the Moon's orbit. Something we talked about a year ago when I was last with Feet to the Fire. Aberrant Moon orbit, very dramatic proof that there is something, something, affecting our Moon. It goes too far to the North between the New Moon and the Full Moon, and too far to the South between the Full and the New Moon. And this has been the case for a full year since last year at this time when we were discussing the matter. People have monitored this closely, taken photos, given me the Azimuth and Altitude, and I have this also well documented in my Orbits section. Another indicator that this orbit is like a hat on a head, instead of being across one ear and the other, straight across, you pull your hat up on one side and down over one ear, tilted like that, is that the Face has rotated too far. It's supposed to rotate very little during the night if you follow it, you see a slight 7 degree change in the Face. It's going up to a 45 and 90 degree change and this is, from someone who studied it, a latitude difference, as though going from Alaska down to Florida, for instance, as though the person watching it was in those locations from one point in the night to the next. So we have a very aberrant Moon. This is noticed by people who don't know anything about Planet X or these conspiracy theories. There are little old ladies who say 'the Moon has never shown in that window, and what's it doing there once a month', you know, 'never since I've been here, since I was a little girl in this house', that kind of thing. So people have noticed. We don't hear about this in the news. That's another indication.

So that's a quick study. Well, I wanted to mention also that someone has taken pictures of Jupiter, which also has the same kind of tilt, Jupiter and Saturn, that the Moon does. An aberrant tilt instead of straight across, it's going at a diagonal. We do have a photo of that and some links on the page prepared for tonight. So that's a quick overview, of where is Planet X, creeping toward us, shrouded by the dust, creating more and more earthquakes and weird weather, high tides, swirling volcanoes, we have a high degree of volcanic activity. And the cover-up is beginning to, if not crack, at least erode. An example is the Yellowstone Supervolcano on TV about a month ago, a very good example of a cracking cover-up. It was actually announced by that scientist who felt it was in pre-eruption status, which it's now listed as, that the kind of activity we had there in 2002, 2003, 2004 was pre-eruption but not allowed to be listed as. But it was damped down in the media and not allowed to be called that. But that was an admission in the movie because they had a scientific crew behind the movie and that was based on science.

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